PC randomly crashes when gaming?

Slartybart · 07 Nov 2012

Don't worry about back filling the info, just keep it in mind for future posts. You didn't waste my time, only I can waste my time =:>

There are two schools of thought going on trying to resolve the issue with your PC.
1) Fix what might be broken - ended when you re-installed Windows
2) Start fresh

You have already taken the start fresh path and Greg is the best around here to help continue down that path.

I'll step back so Greg and you can work through this.

Best of luck,

Bill
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[QUOTE=MrUser01;2168254]@Slartybart,
Thanks for looking

, Sorry if I wasted your time then <3 Am glad the new info helps out more :) I did get disk with my motherbored *Thought I don't know how old the stuff on there is, but they work*

I will get onto that now :)

And no no thank you! And everyone here on sevenforums.com much love to you all!/QUOTE]

F5ing · 07 Nov 2012

essenbe said:

And, BTW, I am not that good, I'm just a pack rat. I keep most everything.

Cut yourself some slack. Apparently you're an efficiently organized pack rat!

I'm somewhat of a pack rat myself, but I certainly could be a little better organized.

MrUser01 said:

@F5ing,
Here are your CrystalDiskInfo results..
Sadly no screenshots as do my pc crashed

Well, airflow temp, drive temp, and runtime hours are updating. Can you toggle the BIOS SMART setting and do it again?

Took another look at your SMART data and noticed it has a relatively new attribute, called "End to End Errors", indicating a newer version of SMART (some are calling it SMART IV). The odd thing is, is that this is the only attribute in your list that seems to indicate your drive might've encountered some problems in the past. Not saying there aren't other issues, it's just that it's the only one I see that's apparently changed for the worse (compared to a new healthy drive), at least as far as I can tell. A couple of other attributes might also be indicating problems but I can't say with any level of confidence. Most of your other attributes look good and healthy.

There are a number of Samsung Diagnostic apps included in this distribution: http://www.hirensbootcd.org/files/Hi...ootCD.15.1.zip

Burn to a DVD (not sure it'll fit on a CD), boot it and find the Samsung stuff amongst all the other hard drive tools.

MrUser01 · 07 Nov 2012

@gregrocker,
I did!I read it step by step but there was some steps I skipped..
like step 3, I only backed up what I needed not dragged my whole user folder.

But when you (I) format my pc and then get back onto it I have no internet what so ever as do I have to install the drivers for that.. How can I update without the internet?

That is true, But like I said no internet no way of getting updates..

And Yes I have windows updates on and right now there is nothing new.

@Slartybart,
Still thanks for looking ^^, Am just not sure which files I should download? Or should I just get them all?

Like I said I will do anything to fix my PC I don't have money to buy a new pc (I would just do that makes life so much more easier) But I do have money to replaces parts eg ram cpu hd etc.. But am just not sure what to change and replace.
Thanks Bill <3

@F5ing,
But I did.. I had SMart on then off (Right now its on) And I left that program running, Not sure if it replaces the old files or if it just edits them with a new date/time ?

Would it help if I swap HD's? I have a 160GB in my old pc doing nothing. (thought I would have to reinstall windows 7)

Downloaded
Burned it
will test
*Edit I used the disk but I don't know which one I should use? Best ask here before I mess it up

*A question how close are we? To finding out why my pc crashes?*

<3
-J

Ps: If any of you would like I can set up a teamviewer (free remote access) So you can have a better look :)

F5ing · 07 Nov 2012

MrUser01 said:

But when you (I) format my pc and then get back onto it I have no internet what so ever as do I have to install the drivers for that.. How can I update without the internet?

That is true, But like I said no internet no way of getting updates..

And Yes I have windows updates on and right now there is nothing new.

If there's no built-in support for your network adapter you'll have to use another machine, internet connected, to find, download, tranfer to removable media and then load it on your crippled machine.

MrUser01 said:

But I did.. I had SMart on then off (Right now its on) And I left that program running, Not sure if it replaces the old files or if it just edits them with a new date/time ?

Okay, thanks. It appends the existing files with new data. I think I remember seeing about 5 scans, an hour apart. About 5 hrs worth of data, so if about half the time you had it enabled and the other half disabled, we're good.

MrUser01 said:

Would it help if I swap HD's? I have a 160GB in my old pc doing nothing. (thought I would have to reinstall windows 7)

That could pinpoint or rule out your drive as the problem.

MrUser01 said:

Downloaded
Burned it
will test
*Edit I used the disk but I don't know which one I should use? Best ask here before I mess it up

I think you'll find it under DOS Programs...

MrUser01 said:

*A question how close are we? To finding out why my pc crashes?*

I don't think anyone can really say.

gregrocker · 07 Nov 2012

As it says in the Clean Reinstall tutorial, put the network driver on a CD or stick to get online quickly to get your WIndows Updates. I thought you had read at least that much.

I think it's a good idea to swap in the other HD to (this time) do a perfect Clean Reinstall on it to see if the problem persists. How many times has it crashed since the latest reinstall on the same HD?

Did you ever try running the Samsung scan Essenbe linked in IDE mode in BIOS? Samsung says SeaTools is sufficient to determine condition of it's HD's so you may have to settle for that, but test installing to the other HD will resolve this for your purposes.

Did you confirm SMART status is Enabled in BIOS and has stayed Enabled, after Saving changes and Exiting?

MrUser01 · 07 Nov 2012

@F5ing,

I see. The why I normally do it is "format,install network drives/audio,restart,windows updates"

Welcome :)

Sure I will do that some time later, I will do some more tests on this HD for now.

I hope we can find out soon

@gregrocker,
Sure, I will swap HD's later and do the clean install.. I must of missed that part but then I was reading at 7am in the morning with lack of sleep :3

SMART status is Enabled in BIOS, I do check it and it says Enabled

Here is what am going to do

1, Test F5ing iso
2,Go IDE and test Estools
3, Swap HDs (if needed after all the test)

-J
<3

gregrocker · 07 Nov 2012

Get plenty of rest and study the steps for reinstall first so you get it perfect. Ask back if you have any questions.

I was going to suggest installing to a test partition on the other HD when you mentioned it yesterday but thought it was still being used. If you want to keep its installation then before removing it from the machine shrink a test partition in Disk mgmt. Otherwise delete any partitions which are not needed when you do the booted install in the problem machine, create and format a new partition in that space.

Slartybart · 07 Nov 2012

MrUser01: I posted it as a reference for you. I would have included any download recommendations. You were following a fresh install path and loading the original drivers is a different trouble shooting path.

So as it stands, it is only an informational post. Swapping hard drives, when you get to that point, will give you some, pardon the pun, hard data on if the issue is drive related.

There's a lot of testing done before any one can tell what the underlying issue is on a machine. One the problem is identified, you'll be surprised how quickly it is resolved. Bear with the members helping you and follow the instructions very carefully to get to the solution faster. Post results so no one has to ask for them.

Most questions are answered in the link provided, especially if it points to a well tested tutorial. So read first, read it all, make all preparations necessary before committing and ask if you still have questions.

You're doing fine, a few hiccups, but overall things are going well.

Bill

[QUOTE=MrUser01;2168925@Slartybart,
Still thanks for looking ^^, Am just not sure which files I should download? Or should I just get them all?.....[/QUOTE]

tlarseth · 07 Nov 2012

And please for yourself, try to get some sleep, don't let this get to you. It is best to wait on any work on the computer until you are rested. Mistakes happen when tired, trust me, I have made them before.

MrUser01 · 08 Nov 2012

@gregrocker,
I was just going to use the full HD as do it has nothing on there (Just windows 7 os)

Here is what I done step by step..

I went thought the Diskpart Command steps but when I was doing it, Windows said it could not start as do the drive was locked or something (Thought I was on the pc/desktop when doing this) So I did the "command prompt at boot." I did as followed "diskpark, seletct disk 0 etc... I did a "Clean all" took hours :/ Then after that I clicked on "Install now" I selcted my HD (which was showed as unallocated space) I clicked on it then I cliked next.. "Windows done its thing" So now am on the desktop (My disk has sp1 on it) noting installed sceen at 800x600.. I put in my disk installed Audio drives internt drives and ACHI drivers, After that I went to geforce and got my grafics card drivers (Thought it would save time and windows normally downloads a old verson) Installed that and restarted "Changed sceen to 1440x900" I then installed all (well not the langene ones) windows updates.. After that I installed the programs I needed..
And it still crashed xD

@Slartybart,
I will be sure to swap HD's for sure!
Hope we can find the program soon
Thanks Bill <3

@tlarseth,
Thanks and I know! But am also in college so that makes most/all of my time, And the days I get off I put 24,7 into my PC (But I do have little naps ^^) I just feel less sleep = more test = more results = getting closer = fix = Gaming all night!

Sorry about my spelling errors (and bold and colours) Am using IE as do my other pc (the one that crashs) is runing ESTools v3.01v from F5ing disk..
Its doing a Test Loop Number 1/1 So far passed a lot! Right now its on "Read Surface scan" Progress: 48.111% LBA: 1411344000] So I guess now is bed time and I will leave my pc on in the night... Will post back later with my results !

Much love
-J <3