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Windows 7: BSOD - Random intervals with PFN_LIST_CORRUPT and MEMEORY_MANAGEMENT

10 Jan 2013   #21
YTN3rd

Win7 x64
 
 

Ordering a Noctua NH-D14 CPU Cooler. Will post after running driver verification with the new cooler.


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10 Jan 2013   #22
Dave76

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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Nice CPU cooler.

CPU overheating can cause issues like you're having, after you get the new cooler installed test the system for stability before running Driver Verifier. It might be stable.
Let us know the results.
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10 Jan 2013   #23
YTN3rd

Win7 x64
 
 

I was going to get a Antec Kuhler 620 for $74, but looking at benchmarks the NH-D14 ($85) is better. Not sure if all companies do this or if noctua is just awesome, but they have a motherboard and ram compatibility list.
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10 Jan 2013   #24
Dave76

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Noctua is a good company, their CPU coolers and fans are great.
Their fans are known to be excellent quality, durable and very quiet.
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16 Jan 2013   #25
YTN3rd

Win7 x64
 
 

Had the cooler in for a few days, got a BSOD. Will enable driver verification for all non-windows drivers and report back at next BSOD.

Is there a way I can clear out all those logs that sevenfourms program collects so it'll only show new logs as of today?
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16 Jan 2013   #26
Dave76

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Let us know what Driver Verifier comes up with.

The old dump files may be useful later, they don't take up much room, I would just leave them there.
You can take them out of the folder before you zip it.
The folder the dumps are stored in is %SystemRoot%\Minidump, ie C: \Minidump, you can delete them from there if you want.
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18 Jan 2013   #27
YTN3rd

Win7 x64
 
 

Got a BSOD with driver verification turned on, hopefully this puts more light on the subject.
Only thing I can see from windows debugger that is different is,

Quote:
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VERIFIER_ENABLED_VISTA_MINIDUMP
Maybe my computer has a vista driver installed?

When this crash happened I wasn't even at my computer, it was sitting there playing fullscreen YouTube videos for me and I was walking past the computer. I do know for a fact that the video I was watching was not finished, so its not like there was some form of web page interaction like going to the next video happening.

EDIT:
Looking at my drivers, my brother (printer, though not currently plugged in) drivers appear to be old.

Quote:
BrFiltLo Brother USB Mass-Stora Kernel 7/08/2006 11:51:06 AM
BrFiltUp Brother USB Mass-Stora Kernel 7/08/2006 11:51:02 AM
Brserid Brother MFC Serial Por Kernel 7/08/2006 11:51:11 AM
BrSerWdm Brother WDM Serial dri Kernel 7/08/2006 11:51:05 AM
BrUsbMdm Brother MFC USB Fax On Kernel 7/08/2006 11:51:00 AM
BrUsbSer Brother MFC USB Serial Kernel 9/08/2006 10:11:02 PM
Went to go update them, says they are already installed -_- Even though the driver pack is from 2011.
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19 Jan 2013   #28
Dave76

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Vista Driver fault is common, it's the symbol used.

How many hours have you been running Driver Verifier in the past 3 days?

Though, the Brother drivers are old, may be causing problems. Un-install them for testing purposes, at least until you get another crash.

Last crash, same as before, is blaming memory corruption.
Code:
STOP 0x0000004E: PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
Usual causes:  Device driver, ?memory
Probably caused by : memory_corruption ( nt!MiBadShareCount+4c )
PROCESS_NAME:  chrome.exe
IMAGE_NAME:  memory_corruption
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x4E_99_VRF_nt!MiBadShareCount+4c
Chrome is implicated again, un-install Chrome for testing purposes. You can install it again later if the system is stable.

Are these two voltages still set in BIOS?
DRAM Voltage - 1.550v
VCCIO Voltage - 1.150v

Manually set the first four RAM timings to 9-9-9-25 and the 'Command Rate' to 2T, leave the rest on auto, Save & Exit.

Do you have any Asus utility programs installed?
If you do, un-install them, they are know to cause instability.
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20 Jan 2013   #29
YTN3rd

Win7 x64
 
 

I had been using the computer, maybe 10-14 hours a day over the last 3 days? If I shutdown my computer, the driver verification is still enabled for next boot, correct?

I had ASUS PC Diagnostics and ASUS AI Suite II installed, removing them now. Have also removed brother drivers.

BIOS is set to correct DRAM and VCCIO voltages. Changed my memory timings as requested, why change the cycle time from what the spec says they should run at?

I can uninstall chrome, but if the issue happens when chrome is doing things, or when steam is sometimes doing this, uninstalling them doesn't really solve the problem. I find it hard to believe that chrome is incompatible with my PC for some unknown reason. And saying to uninstall it is like saying the flat tyres on your car are not a problem so long as you don't try to drive it anywhere. I'll keep it on for now to see if uninstalling the some drivers, ASUS AI Suite and changing the RAM timings help.

EDIT: Should I enable driver verification for all drivers, including the Microsoft ones?
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20 Jan 2013   #30
Dave76

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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Yes it has to be disabled manually.
You can disable Driver Verifier now.

The RAM timings I posted are from the CPUZ SPD tab, CPUZ reads it from the permanent file on the RAM cards which is put there by the manufacturer. This is their recommended, tested, settings.
It's a standard procedure when dealing with possible RAM issues, I run mine like that allways.

As mentioned above, 'for testing purposes', if the crashes stop with Chrome uninstalled, then we can try a fresh install or an older version.
With all the browser versions coming out quickly, they do have issues and are known, you can search and find them. Although Chrome has been pretty stable, this is the easiest way to confirm stability.

Keep Chrome if you want, we may need to come back to it later.
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