BSOD on various games, thought solved, suddenly returns untraceable


  1. Posts : 4
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       #1

    BSOD on various games, thought solved, suddenly returns untraceable


    I've never had any problems with this computer, but this month I started getting BSODs, first while playing the Witcher 1, though I have no tech experience I tried to search on my own and using WhoCrashed found that apparently outdated Nvidia and Etron USB 3.0 drives were to blame, ok, all's well, I even finish the game, then a week or so later, when I'm already 30 hours in Witcher 2 already the Blue Screens come back, and this time I'm stumped, as neither WhoCrashed nor BlueScreenViewer seem to give me any hints.

    Please notice only the two latest minidumps are from this second wave of problems, 012513-30186-01 being the latest, if you read all of this thank you in advance, I'm really up against the wall here and I'd appreciate any sort of help or guidance.
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  2. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
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       #2

    Hello CoolJay, have you enabled driver verifier at all?
    Code:
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    
    DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION (c4)
    A device driver attempting to corrupt the system has been caught.  This is
    because the driver was specified in the registry as being suspect (by the
    administrator) and the kernel has enabled substantial checking of this driver.
    If the driver attempts to corrupt the system, bugchecks 0xC4, 0xC1 and 0xA will
    be among the most commonly seen crashes.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: 0000000000000091, A driver switched stacks using a method that is not supported by
        the operating system. The only supported way to extend a kernel
        mode stack is by using KeExpandKernelStackAndCallout.
    Arg2: 0000000000000002
    Arg3: fffffa800f7ba7d0
    Arg4: 0000000000000000
    
    Debugging Details:
    ------------------
    
    
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0xc4_91
    
    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT:  1
    
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
    
    PROCESS_NAME:  witcher2.exe
    
    CURRENT_IRQL:  2
    
    TAG_NOT_DEFINED_c000000f:  FFFFF80004806FB0
    
    LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from fffff8000332728a to fffff800032d15c0
    
    STACK_TEXT:  
    fffff800`04800ff8 fffff800`0332728a : 00000000`000000c4 00000000`00000091 00000000`00000002 fffffa80`0f7ba7d0 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
    fffff800`04801000 fffff800`03270a95 : 00000000`00000000 fffff800`04801130 00000000`00000003 00000000`00000000 : nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+0x4894
    fffff800`04801040 fffff800`03270e59 : fffff880`0d0e8000 fffff880`0d0ef000 fffff800`048010b0 fffff880`049dc9b8 : nt!RtlEnoughStackSpaceForStackCapture+0x15
    fffff800`04801070 fffff800`0339413b : 00000000`00000001 fffff800`048010f0 00000000`00000000 fffff880`04a4aa8d : nt!RtlWalkFrameChain+0x59
    fffff800`048010a0 fffff880`04a009c9 : 00000000`00000000 fffff800`04801130 fffffa80`0e891000 00000000`00040120 : nt!RtlCaptureStackBackTrace+0x4b
    fffff800`048010d0 00000000`00000000 : fffff800`04801130 fffffa80`0e891000 00000000`00040120 fffff800`04801150 : nvlddmkm+0x1b39c9
    
    
    STACK_COMMAND:  kb
    
    FOLLOWUP_IP: 
    nvlddmkm+1b39c9
    fffff880`04a009c9 ??              ???
    
    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  5
    
    SYMBOL_NAME:  nvlddmkm+1b39c9
    
    FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner
    
    MODULE_NAME: nvlddmkm
    
    IMAGE_NAME:  nvlddmkm.sys
    
    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  50b97852
    
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0xc4_91_nvlddmkm+1b39c9
    
    BUCKET_ID:  X64_0xc4_91_nvlddmkm+1b39c9
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    
    0: kd> lmvm nvlddmkm
    start             end                 module name
    fffff880`0484d000 fffff880`0536e000   nvlddmkm T (no symbols)           
        Loaded symbol image file: nvlddmkm.sys
        Image path: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nvlddmkm.sys
        Image name: nvlddmkm.sys
        Timestamp:        Sat Dec 01 08:54:02 2012 (50B97852)
        CheckSum:         00B0A675
        ImageSize:        00B21000
        Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
    Bugcheck code says DV is enabled, whereas Bucket ID is not supporting this statement. Which may be interpreted as the driver verifier is not enabled actually.

    Recently we have noticed that some inbuilt bugs of the nvidia display driver causing this type of crash. And, apparently you are using a beta version of the display driver. I'd suggest you to roll back to an earlier stable one. It never crashes on itself.


    And, the Etron USB 3.0 Extensible Host Controller Driver is an old one.

    Code:
    BugCheck D1, {fffffa8c10881fd0, 2, 0, fffff8800427c51e}
    
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for EtronXHCI.sys
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for EtronXHCI.sys
    Probably caused by : EtronXHCI.sys ( EtronXHCI+451e )
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    start             end                 module name
    fffff880`04278000 fffff880`04287b00   EtronXHCI T (no symbols)           
        Loaded symbol image file: EtronXHCI.sys
        Image path: \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\EtronXHCI.sys
        Image name: EtronXHCI.sys
        Timestamp:        Wed Jan 26 16:23:57 2011 (4D3FFD45)
        CheckSum:         000108AD
        ImageSize:        0000FB00
        Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
    So you need to update it. Get it from the manufacturers website.


    Install Service pack 1.
    Code:
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    Versão    6.1.7600 Compilação 7600
    Learn how to install Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
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    Uninstall AVG using AVG Remover. Use Microsoft Security Essentials as your antivirus with windows inbuilt firewall, and free MBAM as the on demand scanner.
    Download, install and update those, and then run full system scans with both of them, one by one.


    Let us know the results.
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  3. Posts : 4
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks for the help, done all as instructed I will now launch the game and play around a little bit, if it doesn't break after two hours or so I'll post again and officially declare success.
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  4. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
       #4

    Best of luck :)
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  5. Posts : 4
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Two hours or so, yeah right, fat chance of that happening in the Witcher 2's final act, really lost track of the time there, but anyway, great success! Everything works perfectly, thank you a lot Arc, probably saved me from a fresh OS install from the clueless dunces at my local tech support.
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  6. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
       #6

    Before being sure, wait more :)
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  7. Posts : 4
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Alright, thought this was solved, finished the game and went right back to my crushing real life duties, so yesterday, February 9th I log in the game again, get trough the opening intro and when I get booted to the menu the computer crashes, not even a BSOD, just darkness. Every reboot from now on seems to go okay until the windows login screen, then I get the old black screen again, no minidumps.

    I boot into safe mode and remove my Nvidia drivers, then my computer manages to boot normally. The second I install any Nvidia drivers, even the auto detected windows one, the latest or oldest driver, my computer can't boot again. I'm sorry if this isn't BSOD related or if I should open a new thread, but I'm completely lost here. Tried using Driver Fusion, Driver Sweeper and manually deleting any Nvidia related files on hidden folder and appdata, but I can't move on.
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  8. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
       #8

    Use the onboard graphics, and test the GPU in another computer.

    Possibly it is failing.
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