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Windows 7: BSOD when running maintenance

14 Feb 2013   #11
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Just something to try. Use SATA II reset your bios properly and see what happens. What worked for me might not work for you.


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14 Feb 2013   #12
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

If you had Intel Rapid Storage manager driver installed then your system was in AHCI or RAID mode (which are basically the same thing) or it would have crashed.

This tutorial explains how to check if you are in IDE or AHCI/RAID and how to change from IDE to AHCI/RAID.
AHCI : Enable in Windows 7 after OS install

If you don't have the Intel SATA III ports, they are likely Marvell SATA III ports, you will get better performance from the Intel SATA II ports.
You can test your SSD with a benchmark like AS SSD and see which port performs better.

Also don't recommend any Intel RST driver after v11.2.0.1006, there have been a lot of stability issues, but not for all systems.
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14 Feb 2013   #13
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

ASUS - - ASUS MAXIMUS IV EXTREME-Z

Intel® Z68 chipset : *1
2 x SATA 6Gb/s port(s), red
4 x SATA 3Gb/s port(s), gray
Support Raid 0, 1, 5, 10
Support Intel® Smart Response Technology on 2nd generation Intel® Core™ processor family

Marvell® PCIe 9182 controller : *1
2 x SATA 6Gb/s port(s), red

JMicron® JMB362 controller : *1
2 x eSATA 3Gb/s port(s), red

*1: These SATA ports are for data hard drivers only. ATAPI devices are not supported.
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14 Feb 2013   #14
AlexRD

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
Hi Alex,

xBlue or Layback are more qualified to help you solve the issue than I am. I'm just jumping in for a few quick questions.

When you uninstalled the drivers per xBlue's request, did you remove the software if prompted?

Did you decide to change over to AHCI before the BSOD, or are there two different issues now?

How did you make the change to AHCI? I know you said you prep'd your system. Take a look at this this tutorial to see if it is different from the procces you used. The tutorial on this site are great and time tested.

I'm out, good luck and you're in good hands.

Bill
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There was no software, i clicked uninstalled and it asked me to reboot. There is only one issue the tuneup issue was resolved, and i changed AHCI the way the tutorial asked.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
If you had Intel Rapid Storage manager driver installed then your system was in AHCI or RAID mode (which are basically the same thing) or it would have crashed.

This tutorial explains how to check if you are in IDE or AHCI/RAID and how to change from IDE to AHCI/RAID.
AHCI : Enable in Windows 7 after OS install

If you don't have the Intel SATA III ports, they are likely Marvell SATA III ports, you will get better performance from the Intel SATA II ports.
You can test your SSD with a benchmark like AS SSD and see which port performs better.

Also don't recommend any Intel RST driver after v11.2.0.1006, there have been a lot of stability issues, but not for all systems.
That's the thing, it did crash! I installed windows 7 on IDE mode, but then switched to AHCI, after a little while i started seeing that my computer wouldn't shut down, so i debugged and found that the error was in AHCI so since i was lazy i left it at that.
However, after running ccleaner periodically and seeing that i always had 150mb on error reports, i decided to look into it. All of that was intel rapid storage manager errors, which failed to run while on IDE mode, so i switched back to AHCI and now i want to resolve the issue with the shutdown so i can enjoy the RST benefits.
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14 Feb 2013   #15
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Ok, thanks - sometimes uninstalling drivers ask to remove software. This causes Windows to install generic drivers on the next boot. Windows Updates finds most of the device specific drivers, but you might have to visit the mobo or device support site for a driver.

It's also not certain that IRST will provide additional benefits.

Per the mobo specs, Dave is correct. Your board has
2 Marvell Sata III ports (6GB-red),
2 Jmicron Sata II ports (3GB-grey), and
2 Intel Sata II ports (3GB-grey)

Which ports are the drives connected?
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
If you don't have the Intel SATA III ports, they are likely Marvell SATA III ports, you will get better performance from the Intel SATA II ports.
You can test your SSD with a benchmark like AS SSD and see which port performs better.
Also don't recommend any Intel RST driver after v11.2.0.1006, there have been a lot of stability issues, but not for all systems.
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14 Feb 2013   #16
AlexRD

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
Ok, thanks - sometimes uninstalling drivers ask to remove software. This causes Windows to install generic drivers on the next boot. Windows Updates finds most of the device specific drivers, but you might have to visit the mobo or device support site for a driver.

It's also not certain that IRST will provide additional benefits.

Per the mobo specs, Dave is correct. Your board has
2 Marvell Sata III ports (6GB-red),
2 Jmicron Sata II ports (3GB-grey), and
2 Intel Sata II ports (3GB-grey)

Which ports are the drives connected?
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
If you don't have the Intel SATA III ports, they are likely Marvell SATA III ports, you will get better performance from the Intel SATA II ports.
You can test your SSD with a benchmark like AS SSD and see which port performs better.
Also don't recommend any Intel RST driver after v11.2.0.1006, there have been a lot of stability issues, but not for all systems.
Its connected to the Marvell ports
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14 Feb 2013   #17
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Dave's a sharp cookie, why not benchmark on the Marvell port and then reconnect the drive to the Intel port and run another benchmark.

I know, I know, you're looking for the best performance and SATA III is twice the throughput..... but throughput might not be the only consideration for best performance. See what you get when you benchmark.

Bill
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14 Feb 2013   #18
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Like I stated in my previous posts try SATA II Intel ports. It cost nothing to try. A benchmark will show a little better but in the normal use of my computer I see or feel no difference. I went trhough the Marvell SATA III hell with my Asus board. They might of fixed the problem but for me it's not worth the trouble mucking with it again. If your system works well with Intel SATA II then you know what the problem is and can tinker with Marvell if you care to.
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15 Feb 2013   #19
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Thanks Bill

The Marvell SATA III port drivers have always been poor performance wise, there are a lot of people hoping they will improve but, they haven't.
This is the reason I don't recommend getting a PCI SATA III card, all the ones I've found are Marvell chips and drivers.

@ AlexRD, which Intel RST driver version do you have?
There are a lot of people experiencing stability issues with versions after v11.2.0.1006.
Four computers in my house won't run stable with the versions after v11.2.0.1006.
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15 Feb 2013   #20
x BlueRobot

 

I would follow the suggestions everyone has made, however, I think the Intel SATA II ports are going to better than the Marvell SATA III ports. I've seen the same issue with another OP, who had Intel and Marvell, and then switched to their Intel ports and drivers and everything seemed to run much more stable.

However, saying that, this could be a completely different situation and environment.
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