First of all I am almost too embarrassed to post this. I feel like a total ninkompoop.
Background:
A few days ago I thought my new Seasonic Gold 850 had gone bad. Tested all the leads and the motherboard power leads showed no or low power. Well, the problem was not the PSU but the modular connections had come loose from the power supply itself (very, very hard to see in the maze of wiring in my computers; don't ask)
Well, the result was like a light switch being switch on-off, there was some partial bootup and then a crash. Couldn't even get into the bios, so I knew it was either a motherboard or power problem - Duh!
OK, after fixing the modular connection to the PSU the computer of course could boot and I got into the bios. In the boot section I noticed that everything was scrambled, hard drive order, boot order, everything. So I reset all (pics attached).
Problem: Upon bootup, although the boot devices are CD/DVD optical #1 and then the 120 GB SSD #2, I continue to get the error message "Reboot and Select Proper Boot Device".
My conclusion: The OS kernel and boot loader were corrupted - again a big Duh!
Tried: Put Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit setup disk in and did "system repair", after which the computer will successfully come up into Windows - if and only if the setup disk remains in the optical drive. Same if I do system restore.
Rant: One of the things that has always annoyed me with Windows is the SATA connections come up all willy-nilly in Computer (Disk) Management - basically to hell with order, we will call your SATA connections what we want to.
Note: I have 2 SSD's - #1 is 120 GB for OS and important programs and #2 is 80 GB for less important programs. I had intended to put SSD #1 (120 Gb) on SATA 1 and #2 (80 Gb) on SATA 2 but #2 is actually on SATA 3. This was not a problem before I had the on-off switching of the PSU due to the bad modular connection, which I believe corrupted my OS.
Question: How to Fix It.
Footnote: Please feel free to tell me what a raving idiot I am. I don't mind being publicly humiliated. I just wanna learn.
First, the port # for your second SSD won't make any difference except possibly in performance. I believe on your board, #2 is a sata III port and Port 3 is a sata II port. Was your sata configuration in bios AHCI mode before and is it now? After the problem with your PSU, did you set optimized defaults, then set your ram timings, speed and voltage? If all of that is correct, put in the repair disk or the Installation disk and run startup repair. You will have to run it at least 3 times with starup attempts in between each try. If you still have the first boot device as your CD/DVD you'll need to bypass that on your attempted startups, between startup repairs. ie. We want it to try to start up from the SSD not the DVD.
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Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1.
Dennis, if and when you boot into windows, please post a screenshot of disk management expanded so we can see both the top and bottom. Also open an elevated command prompt ( click the start button, type cmd in the search box, right click the cmd entry select run as administrator) Copy/paste this into the window and press enter. sfc /scannow let it run and tell us what the results are. It is a system file checker. It will attempt to repair any missing or damaged system files. Of Interest Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times
Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080
Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1.
At any time did you clear the CMOS? Sometimes that will fix wonky BIOS problems, and if it won't fix them, it's a good idea anyway. Just thinking out loud.
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I'll do my best to answer all these questions. Thanks for the help!
1) In the BIOS SATA 1-4 - AHCI; 5,6 IDE (Opticals) - I have on occasion set all SATA ports to AHCI, just not this time.
2) Ran sfc /scannow - No Problems reported
3) Have run "Startup Repair" several times - BUT will only boot if and only if the Win 7 Disk is in the DVD-ROM
4) No, I did not hit "Reset" on the mobo yet (which would have made sense awhile back because with the PSU problems the settings in the BIOS were completely scrambled, i.e. different from what I had set. Instead of resetting the BIOS, I just reset everything manually.
5) As you will see from the online Crosshair V snippets all my sata ports are 6 GB/Sec
6) Problem: I put my 2 SSD's on SATA 1 and SATA 2 per the manual - which is wrong. (Note: I have corrected other ASUS motherboard manuals in the past, specifically where what's labeled on the motherboard does not agree with what's in the manual. I feel sorry for newbies as a result.). Since the manual is wrong and I must trust the BIOS, it looks like my SSD's are on SATA 1 and 3, not 1 and 2. Note: This has made no difference in boot up in the past, so I doubt that it is suddenly a factor.
Dennis, I am not ignoring you, I'm looking. Is there more than 1 OS on the system? You have several drives that are marked 'active' which don't need to be unless they are bootable and can confuse repairs.. Would you recheck and reseat the power and daya cables to the drives, the OS SSD in particular. Is there any way with the Intel toolbox to check tht the drive is functioning properly? The SFC you rand should have detected any corrupted files. It appears that for some reason Your SSD is not recognized as a bootable device. This is what I would do. Disconnect all hard drives except the SSD with windows 7 on it. You can just remove the data cable if that is easier. It is listed in your screenshot as active, system and boot. Clear CMOS, as Kbrady suggested. Reset your sata controller, ram frequency, timings and voltage, set the SSD as 1st boot device. Then follow this tutorial, again running startup repair 3 times with attempted startups in between each, if that does not work go to step 4 Bootmgr is missing - Fix
Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080
Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1.
Dennis, I am not ignoring you, I'm looking. Is there more than 1 OS on the system? You have several drives that are marked 'active' which don't need to be unless they are bootable and can confuse repairs.. Would you recheck and reseat the power and daya cables to the drives, the OS SSD in particular. Is there any way with the Intel toolbox to check tht the drive is functioning properly? The SFC you rand should have detected any corrupted files. It appears that for some reason Your SSD is not recognized as a bootable device. This is what I would do. Disconnect all hard drives except the SSD with windows 7 on it. You can just remove the data cable if that is easier. It is listed in your screenshot as active, system and boot. Clear CMOS, as Kbrady suggested. Reset your sata controller, ram frequency, timings and voltage, set the SSD as 1st boot device. Then follow this tutorial, again running startup repair 3 times with attempted startups in between each, if that does not work go to step 4 Bootmgr is missing - Fix
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I believe that step 4 in that tutorial is the answer we're looking for.
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I hope you are right, TC. But, I think it should be done with only the OS drive connected. Also, your opinion please. With his PSU problem, then the bios being 'all messed up', do you think there was possibly a short during the PSU problem?
Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080
Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1.
I hope you are right, TC. But, I think it should be done with only the OS drive connected. Also, your opinion please. With his PSU problem, then the bios being 'all messed up', do you think there was possibly a short during the PSU problem?
Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number I built it. OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP1 CPU i5-2500K @ 4.7 GHz Motherboard ASUS P8P67 EVO Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 Graphics Card GTX 580 (ASUS DirectCU II) Sound Card XtremeGamer (low-profile PCB) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 2253BW Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050
Keyboard Filco Majestouch Tactile Click NKRO (full size) Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Optical PSU Corsair HX650 (overkill, but it was on sale) Case Cooler Master CM 690 (original) Cooling Thermaltake Frio Hard Drives 60 GB Callisto Deluxe (C:)
64 GB G.SKILL Falcon (D:) Internet Speed Fast. :P Browser Firefox
I hope you are right, TC. But, I think it should be done with only the OS drive connected. Also, your opinion please. With his PSU problem, then the bios being 'all messed up', do you think there was possibly a short during the PSU problem?
I was wondering that myself. Was the BIOS ever re-flashed?
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Keyboard Max Nighthawk X8 Mechanical keyboard Mouse Logitech MX 500 Wired PSU Seasonic X750 80+ Gold Full Modular Case Antec Eleven Hundred Super Mid Tower Cooling Intel Liquid Cooler Hard Drives Samsung 830 128GB SSD - OS
2 x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 HDD - Storage Internet Speed 50Mbps DL / 10Mbps UL Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Chrome/Firefox Other Info Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's
Asus RT-N66R Wireless Router