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Windows 7: BSOD 7f, frequent during loads, not ram

15 Mar 2013   #1
Phaerius

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 
BSOD 7f, frequent during loads, not ram

Had some very frequent full lock ups for awhile now, just recently after doing some ram testing they've turned into blue screens under the same circumstances. Coming up with the error code 7f each time. These most often occur right at the end of a loading bar for various games as well as randomly within said games when run at the higher graphics settings. The previous lockups would be a full freeze with repeating soundloop requiring a hard restart to do anything.

Just replaced my ram with a new set, saw a blue screen after about five minutes so it hasn't done anything to fix the issue. Will attempt to upload a dumpfile, but wondering if I could get an initial opinion on what is most likely.

Running the SF diagnostic tool left me with this exception:
System.IO.IOException: Could not complete operation on some files and directories. See the Data property of the exception for more details.
at Microsoft.VisualBasic.FileIO.FileSystem.FxCopyOrMoveDirectory(CopyOrMove operation, String sourceDirectoryPath, String targetDirectoryPath, Boolean overwrite)
at Microsoft.VisualBasic.FileIO.FileSystem.CopyOrMoveDirectory(CopyOrMove operation, String sourceDirectoryName, String destinationDirectoryName, Boolean overwrite, UIOptionInternal showUI, UICancelOption onUserCancel)
at Microsoft.VisualBasic.MyServices.FileSystemProxy.CopyDirectory(String sourceDirectoryName, String destinationDirectoryName, Boolean overwrite)
at SF_Diagnostic_Tool.Form1.Button1_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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15 Mar 2013   #2
koolkat77

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Windows 10 Home 64Bit
 
 

Try rolling back to a stable Nvidia driver version: Driver Rollback
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15 Mar 2013   #3
Phaerius

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

This has been occuring for about five months, over the course of many driver installs. I do experience many display driver crashes, screen goes black, get the error message about the driver recovering. As I said however, I've gone through a bunch of rollbacks and updates over the last few months.
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15 Mar 2013   #4
koolkat77

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Please upload new reports, and grab all when you do so.
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16 Mar 2013   #5
Phaerius

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

It's still returning the exception in the first post, I will attach the folder it is bringing to my desktop however.
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16 Mar 2013   #6
koolkat77

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Do you have on board graphics?

Can you test the video card on another PC to see if it gives the same BSOD's?
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16 Mar 2013   #7
Phaerius

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

I'm using a gtx 460, I don't have a compy here to test, though I could try a swap in a week or so at a friends. I do have onboard, I remember using it to test something not long ago.

Is there any chance a cpu fault could cause similar symptoms? I want to avoid replacing my mobo or cpu, if possible. I was hoping it'd be ram, but a full swap did nothing at all to the issue. I figured an examination and trouble shoot would be a better idea than buying a new graphics card without testing some things.
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16 Mar 2013   #8
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Phaerius, at this point most things are possible, but it is unlikely it is a CPU error unless something has happened with the CPU you haven't told us yet. Ram is the most likely suspect along with the video card. While it is longer and more tedious, I would like to test the ram first. I know you said you replaced the ram, but new ram can have errors too or it could be a bad dim slot on the board. Just remember during these tests, we are testing both the sticks of ram and the dim slots too. RAM - Test with Memtest86+ is the best test we have but takes a long time to run, but it has to run for a full 8 passes on each stick in each dim slot. Each pass is made up of about 10 tests, and each pass tests something different. If you can complete these tests, we can be relatively assured it is not the ram which, by the way, is the most common of the causes of BSODs. The tests are better run over night while sleeping because they take so much time. I would like to see a full 8 passes on each stick which will take around 6-8 hours each. Believe me I know how tedious it can be, we've all been there before.

EDIT: I also forgot to mention, if you are overclocking the CPU or GPU stop. Reset CMOS to defaults. Make sure the ram is running at the manufacturers timings, frequency and voltage and the GPU is running at stock speed. You may also check and see if there are any bios updates for your board.
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16 Mar 2013   #9
Phaerius

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

I don't overclock and nothing unusual has happened to my system, other than these beginning. I've run memtests on all of the old ram, and I've swapped through all available slots, I was using 8 gigs in 4 slots, and now I'm using 8 gigs in 2. I ran individual memtests as well as a full one with all sticks inserted.

I've never been good at finding bios updates, would I be going through the premade websites ie, hp in my case?
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18 Mar 2013   #10
Phaerius

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Going to do some more ram tests in the coming days.
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