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Windows 7: BSOD 101 while playing AND streaming after new PSU

09 Jun 2013   #1
pgbehe

Windows 7 Home premium x64
 
 
BSOD 101 while playing AND streaming after new PSU

Past week i replaced my Corsair AX 1200 PSU with a coolermaster silent pro hybrid pro 1300W to use the AX1200 on a second PC. This actual PC has been working fine with the Corsair PSU, i have been streaming games for months at ~85% CPU load of my overclocked i7 3970x (4.6ghz with the default "gamer OC" on my rampage IV extreme).

Since i installed the Coolermaster 1300W PSU, i have crashed once playing War Z and once playing Call of Juarez Gunslinger while streaming (those have been the only games i've streamed since new PSU).

Maybe it's just a coincidence so i added my dump files in the zip. Or maybe my OC has gone unstable after a few months ? is that possible ?

You'll see in my .dmp's that i've :

- crashed while playing/streaming War Z at 04.06.2013 20:54 (1-2 days after installing new PSU and streaming War Z)
- crashed while playing/streaming Call Of Juarez: Gunslinger at 09.06.2013 01:33 (playthrough, seen a 101 BSOD)
- crashed while running prime 95 at 09.06.2013 3:13 (after 10-20minutes running, this time a 124 BSOD)

older dates i BSOD while streaming/playing Max Payne, but apparently the game installer's DX update was corrupted, it stopped after reinstalling DX. Maybe it's a similar problem now ? but prime 95 crashes too so i don't know.

I have no worries playing without streaming since the CPU load never goes above 25%.

For me it seems strange that the new PSU is causing this BSOD, but i streamed 12 hours sessions more than once at ~85% CPU load with the AX 1200 PSU with no worries. Could it be unstable ? Since i'm no expert i beg for your help.

Thanks for any clues and sorry for the text structure! And please clarify me on the earlier BSOD stop codes i got since i don't know them (and not informed enough on how to read .dmp's).

Actual PC specs :
CPU : I7 3970x Extreme (six core OC @4.6Ghz with the "gamer OC", Max temp at prime95 : 75C)
Mobo : Asus Rampage IV Extreme (up to date BIOS)
Cooler : Noctua
GPU : Asus GTX Titan (latest Driver)
RAM : 1600Mhz 4x4GB Kingston
PSU : Coolermaster Silent Pro Hybrid 1300W
SSD : OCZ Vertex 4 500GB


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09 Jun 2013   #2
x BlueRobot

 

Code:
BugCheck 124, {0, fffffa800d1ec028, be000000, 800400}

Probably caused by : GenuineIntel
Code:
Usual causes:  Hardware, Incompatibility, May be driver corruption
Code:
===============================================================================
Section 2     : x86/x64 MCA
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Descriptor    @ fffffa800d1ec138
Section       @ fffffa800d1ec2c0
Offset        : 664
Length        : 264
Flags         : 0x00000000
Severity      : Fatal

Error         : Internal timer (Proc 1 Bank 3)
  Status      : 0xbe00000000800400
  Address     : 0x000000014194a695
  Misc.       : 0x0000000000000000
The first parameter or argument has the value of 0x0, which is a Machine Check Exception, which means the CPU has detected a hardware problem and the address points to a processor error because the CPU has found one, so it could be a different form of hardware which is causing the issue.

In such a situation, it is best to use these steps:Enable "Round off checking" before the test (see first post below tutorial).All the hardware seeming to be running stable and tests reporting no errors, could mean a bad motherboard.

Stop 0x124's are almost always caused by hardware, but can (rarely) be caused by possible driver corruption. Stop 0x101's can be due to a corrupted or outdated BIOS, but are usually either a result of drivers or a faulty CPU; a kernel memory dump may be required later if necessary.

Please stop overclocking if you are still doing so, during the troubleshooting process.

Remove (suggested):

Code:
Pando Media Booster	c:\program files (x86)\pando networks\media booster\pmb.exe
Read this thread for information:Remove:

Code:
Start Menu\Programs\DAEMON Tools Pro
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
Download SPTD standalone installer from Disk-Tools.com, and execute the downloaded file as guided below :
  • Double click to open it.
  • Click this button only:
  • If it is grayed out, as in the picture, there is no more SPTD in your system, and you just close the window.
Daemon Tools uses a driver called sptd.sys, which is known to cause BSODs with Windows 7. It is recommend you remove this program, and use Windows own in-built features or ImgBurn.
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09 Jun 2013   #3
pgbehe

Windows 7 Home premium x64
 
 

Thanks for your help BlueRobot, but i checked my pando boost folder, and already got rid of it and it was empty and i didn't install sptd.sys when installing daemon tools.

What i would like to know from an expert point of view is, if a PSU can cause BSOD ? because with the same configuration, i never had problems before and daemon tools was always on the tray bar.
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09 Jun 2013   #4
x BlueRobot

 

The PSU can be a cause of BSODs, however, I feel it may be more the CPU at the fault so far.

It crashed upon Prime95, and has been overclocked too. The bugcheck pointed to the Internal Timer within the CPU too.

What are the voltages within your BIOS for 3.3V, 5V and 12V rails?
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09 Jun 2013   #5
pgbehe

Windows 7 Home premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot View Post
The PSU can be a cause of BSODs, however, I feel it may be more the CPU at the fault so far.

It crashed upon Prime95, and has been overclocked too. The bugcheck pointed to the Internal Timer within the CPU too.

What are the voltages within your BIOS for 3.3V, 5V and 12V rails?
Interesting question about the voltages !

3.3V : +3.328V
5V : +5.120V
12V : +12.192V

I never checked those with the other PSU. And also i have HWiNFO64 to check my CPU info when playing, actually with Firefox and nothing else i have the same. It's funny because before rebooting to show you those settings, i played some low CPU usage like LoL, and i saw the values were higher, the 12V was something around 12.8V and so on (without even stressing the CPU). Is there a way to regulate those values, if necessary ?



And i also attached some of my bios settings here.
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10 Jun 2013   #6
x BlueRobot

 

The voltages will fluctuate slightly depending upon the load, as long as it says within the 12V region, then it should be okay. I don't think you have a PSU problem.
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12 Jun 2013   #7
pgbehe

Windows 7 Home premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot View Post
The voltages will fluctuate slightly depending upon the load, as long as it says within the 12V region, then it should be okay. I don't think you have a PSU problem.
Ty BlueRobot for all your help. I just realized since i switched the PSU....the voltage settings went down from 1.4v to 1.345 in the bios ?! Why would that happen ????? anyways, i put it back to 1.4V as it was with the old PSU and do some prime 95 etc. Still confused why it changed from itself...
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12 Jun 2013   #8
x BlueRobot

 

Was it for the CPU voltage?

Post the Prime95 log file in your next post, it should be saved in Prime95 program folder.
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16 Jun 2013   #9
pgbehe

Windows 7 Home premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot View Post
Was it for the CPU voltage?

Post the Prime95 log file in your next post, it should be saved in Prime95 program folder.
Yes, everything went fine for an hours already, last time i crashed after 8minutes of prime 95. I streamed for 6 hours without crashing. So i believe somehow my bios settings changed after replacing the PSU....

Thank you for all your help. I would never have guessed it had to do with my bios settings that got randomly changed....
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16 Jun 2013   #10
x BlueRobot

 

Welcome, glad your problem is solved
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