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Windows 7: BSOD playing Civ5 and opening SpeedFan

14 Jun 2013   #11
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

The PSU is a quality brand and I would be surprised if that is causing the fluctuations, but stranger things have happened. Even quality one go bad occasionally. I'm not overly familar with Occult test and how it runs. But, first things first. If you are overclocking anything, please set things back to default values. also, that is the GPU test, and is showing gpu voltage.


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14 Jun 2013   #12
Macy

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Had another crash during a different game. Attached is the diagnostics.

Edit:
I will do a power supply check with Occult.
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14 Jun 2013   #13
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I tried Speed Fan about a month ago, again and it gave me all kinds of problems. I had to remove it and that wasn't easy because it's in all kinds of places one wouldn't think it would be in.
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14 Jun 2013   #14
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I ran the test, and apparently I have a different version so couldn't get the same graph. But if you look at CPU usage it may explain the fluctuations in vcore (assuming the vcore is CPU vcore) The test does not appear to be very stressful, to me. It appears to be about the same as playing a game. My GPU temps were the same if playing a game. But, the way it uses the CPU may very well explain the vcore fluctuations.

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14 Jun 2013   #15
Dsprague

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 enterprise 64 bit, Windows 7 Pro 64 bit ,Windows 8 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
I ran the test, and apparently I have a different version so couldn't get the same graph. But if you look at CPU usage it may explain the fluctuations in vcore (assuming the vcore is CPU vcore) The test does not appear to be very stressful, to me. It appears to be about the same as playing a game. My GPU temps were the same if playing a game. But, the way it uses the CPU may very well explain the vcore fluctuations.

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Thank you essenbe, I do believe the Vcore is for the CPU is my memory serves me properly, so that still does not seem to dea lwith your Video TDR error aka 0x116 bugcheck (the one you get when your games crash). so moving along here are a few things to try:

Reset your page file:

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Use this technique to "reset" your pagefile:
a ) Go to Start...Run...and type in "sysdm.cpl" (without the quotes) and press Enter.
-Then click on the Advanced tab,
-then on the Performance Settings Button,
-then on the next Advanced tab,
-then on the Virtual Memory Change button.
b ) In this window, note down the current settings for your pagefile (so you can restore them later on).
-Then click on the "No paging file" radio button, and
- then on the "Set" button. Be sure, if you have multiple hard drives, that you ensure that the paging file is set to 0 on all of them.
-Click OK to exit the dialogs.
c ) Reboot (this will remove the pagefile from your system)
d ) Then go back in following the directions in step a ) and re-enter the settings that you wrote down in step b ). Follow the steps all the way through (and including) the reboot.
e ) Once you've rebooted this second time, go back in and check to make sure that the settings are as they're supposed to be.
Run the system file checker to clear up any file system corruption:

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SFC.EXE /SCANNOW
Go to Start and type in "cmd.exe" (without the quotes)
At the top of the search box, right click on the cmd.exe and select "Run as adminstrator"
In the black window that opens, type "SFC.EXE /SCANNOW" (without the quotes) and press Enter.
If the program ends with anything other than "no integrity violations found" run the command two more times.
If after three runs there are still problems run the command at boot: SFC /SCANNOW : Run in Command Prompt at Boot
Re-install directx: Download DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer from Official Microsoft Download Center

Stop any over clocking that you may be doing (if none then skip this step)


See essenbe's post and my post below
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14 Jun 2013   #16
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dsprague View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
I ran the test, and apparently I have a different version so couldn't get the same graph. But if you look at CPU usage it may explain the fluctuations in vcore (assuming the vcore is CPU vcore) The test does not appear to be very stressful, to me. It appears to be about the same as playing a game. My GPU temps were the same if playing a game. But, the way it uses the CPU may very well explain the vcore fluctuations.

Attachment 272563
Thank you essenbe, I do believe the Vcore is for the CPU is my memory serves me properly, so that still does not seem to dea lwith your Video TDR error aka 0x116 bugcheck (the one you get when your games crash). so moving along here are a few things to try:

Reset your page file:

Quote:
Use this technique to "reset" your pagefile:
a ) Go to Start...Run...and type in "sysdm.cpl" (without the quotes) and press Enter.
-Then click on the Advanced tab,
-then on the Performance Settings Button,
-then on the next Advanced tab,
-then on the Virtual Memory Change button.
b ) In this window, note down the current settings for your pagefile (so you can restore them later on).
-Then click on the "No paging file" radio button, and
- then on the "Set" button. Be sure, if you have multiple hard drives, that you ensure that the paging file is set to 0 on all of them.
-Click OK to exit the dialogs.
c ) Reboot (this will remove the pagefile from your system)
d ) Then go back in following the directions in step a ) and re-enter the settings that you wrote down in step b ). Follow the steps all the way through (and including) the reboot.
e ) Once you've rebooted this second time, go back in and check to make sure that the settings are as they're supposed to be.
Run the system file checker to clear up any file system corruption:

Quote:
SFC.EXE /SCANNOW
Go to Start and type in "cmd.exe" (without the quotes)
At the top of the search box, right click on the cmd.exe and select "Run as adminstrator"
In the black window that opens, type "SFC.EXE /SCANNOW" (without the quotes) and press Enter.
If the program ends with anything other than "no integrity violations found" run the command two more times.
If after three runs there are still problems run the command at boot: SFC /SCANNOW : Run in Command Prompt at Boot
Re-install directx: Download DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer from Official Microsoft Download Center

Stop any over clocking that you may be doing (if none then skip this step)
Dsprague, I think you are correct. I just ran it again and my CPU Vcore was pretty much a straight line.
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14 Jun 2013   #17
Dsprague

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 enterprise 64 bit, Windows 7 Pro 64 bit ,Windows 8 64bit
 
 

Well that does change things a bit, in which case its best to ignore my above post and look into getting your PSU replaced it is likely having problems.
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14 Jun 2013   #18
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

For the record, here is my vcore graph

Attachment 272568

How about check bios > hardware monitor and tell us the values of the +12V, +3.3V and +5V. That could show a problem but still won't show what those values are under stress.
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14 Jun 2013   #19
Macy

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I ran those tests that you suggested Essenbe, came back clean. I am going to do one final try of reinstalling windows 7 and all the drivers. After that the PSU will have to be replace. Thank you all for helping!

Edit:
My Vcore still has spikes in it.
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14 Jun 2013   #20
Dsprague

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 enterprise 64 bit, Windows 7 Pro 64 bit ,Windows 8 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
For the record, here is my vcore graph

Attachment 272568

How about check bios > hardware monitor and tell us the values of the +12V, +3.3V and +5V. That could show a problem but still won't show what those values are under stress.
Here The occt also provides the graphs for those rails here are the results from the occt test the OP did earlier
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