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Windows 7: PFN_List BSOD less than 24hours after fresh install

07 Jul 2013   #31
mushibu09

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

forgot, the sound devices "AF9015 BDA" is my dual tuner Freeview Card PCI and "Hua Xing" is my miditech Midi Keyboard for music production this one does drop out and can cause a unknown device i sort that by turning off the device when it's not in use. if the first one mentioned has a windows 7 compatibility problem then that could explain alot on errors on recording and could the Floppy Drive cause these problems? as it's not not completely supported


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07 Jul 2013   #32
Arc

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No dumps are accessible, as they are with a .tmp file extension.

Post it following the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions. Everytime you need to supply the data, follow it.

And, when you are supplying the SF Diag tool output, explanations are not needed till it is asked for.
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07 Jul 2013   #33
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mushibu09 View Post
The 5V is the 4/8 Pin CPU plug? if SO I use the 8 pin that is provided.

the stupid is rhetorical (or what ever the other word is like that)

Capacitors Didn't replace i don't feel compitant to replace them my self as there are so many layers in motherboard and I don't want to short it out my nearest computer store (private small business) said he won't do it either because it works.
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If it isn't broken, Don't Fix It!
the capacitors don't keep climbing when using a multimeter so I think they are dying but I can't remember. if they explode the Electrolytic fluid shorts out the whole motherboard right?

What brand of Japanese ones? I was going to get EXACTLY The Same Capacitors, but I don't know I'm going AMD again! Intel is expensive, and I should have stayed AMD

Also If i went amd and plugged HDD into amd nd booted windows would it work or would i have to reinstall windows? and i Think i will have to uninstall ALL drivers before doing so?
Well caps are hard to replace depending of course on size some can be little more than a pin head and some are in extremely hard to get at spots.
There are also different types of caps too and I think the ones you are referring to are electrolytics which are polarised + and - so even if you were competent enough to replace them you have to be very careful which way round they are inserted into the circuit again the wrong way round with these are going to leave you with an awful mess if not injury - believe me I have seen some quite large ones that in my earlier days I did this too that blew apart the stereo I was building and showered the room with aluminium and paper confetti not to mention the droplets of hot (heat and chemically) electrolyte.
Now I won't go on into the rest but suffice to say that if you apply a charge to one of these caps the cap takes up a charge that acts as a reservoir for the charge however that charge will leech out and depending on the size the cap will become discharged. So if like you are telling me the caps are losing heir charge then something is draining them - usually the circuit they are in so it is not an unusual state of affairs. If the caps did not charge at all then there is a problem
The cheaper caps are those ones usually looking like a tin can with leads marked with a stripe down the side and it indicates the negative lead. The Japanese caps are made of different type of construction hence "solid" caps How to Identify Japanese Electrolytic Capacitors | Hardware Secrets
Te others I haven't gone into are usually used for controlling frequencies within a circuit are tiny and usually a round flat disk coloured green or beige for the most part and play an important part in everyday apps like phones etc etc Tantalum capacitor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So after seeing this you will agree that it is no light matter to identify them let alone replace them.
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07 Jul 2013   #34
mushibu09

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
If more balloons are coming, let us know. Balloons are not good things to have.
It happened again!

during it's flickering the GPU Fan went to 100% speed, and back down to auto speed not to my set 40%
i just went to into reliability report and viewed temp files and zipped up the dmp sysdata WERInternalmetaData files for you.

Leo
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07 Jul 2013   #35
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

The 4/8 pin and the PCIe 6/8 pin connectors are both +12V with ground (common) supplies. 3.3V and 5V comes to the board through the main 20/24 pin ATC connector.
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07 Jul 2013   #36
Arc

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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If the zip you uploaded contains the latest crash dump, it indicates that you havent updated the display driver.
Code:
fffff880`04177000 fffff880`041d6000   atikmpag T (no symbols)           
    Loaded symbol image file: atikmpag.sys
    Image path: atikmpag.sys
    Image name: atikmpag.sys
    Timestamp:        Sat Nov 17 01:09:13 2012 (50A69661)
    CheckSum:         00058D88
    ImageSize:        0005F000
    Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
Mini Kernel Dump does not contain unloaded driver list
Check the driver version in device manager and let us know. We need to know (for you) that if the balloons are occurring with the latest version of display driver too or not.
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07 Jul 2013   #37
mushibu09

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
If the zip you uploaded contains the latest crash dump, it indicates that you havent updated the display driver.
Code:
fffff880`04177000 fffff880`041d6000   atikmpag T (no symbols)           
    Loaded symbol image file: atikmpag.sys
    Image path: atikmpag.sys
    Image name: atikmpag.sys
    Timestamp:        Sat Nov 17 01:09:13 2012 (50A69661)
    CheckSum:         00058D88
    ImageSize:        0005F000
    Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
Mini Kernel Dump does not contain unloaded driver list
Check the driver version in device manager and let us know. We need to know (for you) that if the balloons are occurring with the latest version of display driver too or not.
here is the Proff of installation and version




and as you can see above i removed the old driver and software and installed new one.

can I do this manually install eg just the sys and inf? (I think it's sandboxing isn't it?)

Leo
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07 Jul 2013   #38
Arc

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
 
 

Well, the driver is not updated at all.

The screenshot says ...
  • Driver date: 11/16/2012
  • Driver Version: 8.970.100.7000
Here is your screenshot.



Whereas the latest WHQL one is ....
  • Driver date: 04/24/2013
  • Driver version: 12.104 (in device manager, from where you took the screenshot).
An old display driver may cause that balloons. We are concerned only with the fact that if it is ballooning with the latest one or not.




If you cannot update the driver, its bad. You need to be careful to do it. If you cannot, ask us what to do, but dont place proof, as we can understand what is going on. Data and situation talks more than the proof you may supply.

Uninstall everything about the display driver using AMD Catalyst Un-install Utility

Now install the Latest AMD Catalyst Video Driver for Windows 7

Let us know that you are seeing the balloons with the latest version of display driver or not. Not anything else. If there is any BSOD, post it following the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions. Last time you haven't done it, too; despite of being suggested.
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07 Jul 2013   #39
mushibu09

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

All I know iis that the CCC installed something, if it's not installing the right one then I am just going to change graphics card will get a basic 45GBP one tomorrow will do for now it beats all the hassle!

But thank you for all your help.

Leo

P.S. This is why I want to go back to Mac OS X Had a G5 but i dropped mug of tea on it! :S I never had one problem well apart from not being able to go Snow Leopard lol!
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08 Jul 2013   #40
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Well Leo I went from the ATi stuff to NVidia and haven't had an ounce of problems that I was having in the Sandy Bridge. So the rest of my machines are all now NVidia.
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