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Windows 7: Prime95 Instant BSOD

03 Nov 2013   #11
Meanbunny

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Just attempted to play Runescape because my sister wanted me to try to get on to at least do the 30 minute Halloween event and I can't even keep running long enough for that. Got another Bsod blaming Ntoskrnl.exe this time a different address. This time it is ntoskrnl+75bc0. Bugcheck code 0x0000003d.


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05 Nov 2013   #12
YoYo155

Windows 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Meanbunny View Post
Here is my newest information.

I went into the Bios and apparently the XMP support is set to "AUTO". A funny thing I should mention is that when I enter Advanced DRAM Configuration, there was an option called Memory-Z to enter. When I opened it, there were 3 options, DIMM1, DIMM2 and DIMM3 Memory Information. DIMM1 and DIMM3 when I entered them showed all the info. When I tried to enter DIMM2, my whole Bios locked up and I could not ctrl+alt+delete out of it so I had to restart manually. To make sure it wasn't a fluke, I did it 2 more times with the same exact result.
Good detective work! this is something we need to investigate further.
Start by taking out the corresponding module (stick) for that slot and stress with Prime95 without
that slot populated. Does it crash?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Meanbunny View Post
Onto Prime95.

I was able to run up to 8 threads on the Small FFT's test, then Prime95 started to crash within seconds, although I was not getting any BSOD's. Each thread I added the crash got sooner and sooner until I finally got to the full 12 threads and I got the instant BSOD again.

After I set windows to run with only 1 core (no setting for no cores) and restart, what should I do next? Thanks again for all your help YoYo. Hope to hear back from you soon.

EDIT: I restarted with Windows using only 1 processor and Prime95 ran the same way it did only allowing 1 thread in the Small FFT's test. Even when I get to thread 8 when it starts to crash to desktop, I don't get any errors, just the application crashing. I have had the BSOD's happen with as little as 10 threads before.
The way you describe it getting gradually worst sounds like it's a thermal issue still.
I tend to trust Speccy, but it won't hurt to get a second opinion.
Download HWinfox64 when you launch it it will ask you to choose what you want to load
select the Sensors only option.
Report the temperatures back .
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06 Nov 2013   #13
Meanbunny

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Sorry YoYo, been busy for the past couple days but am back to troubleshooting.

When I remove the DIMM2 stick I still get the exact same BSOD when running Prime95. I also noticed that when I try to run HWInfo after a few seconds of it being open, my whole system locks up and I have to manually shut down via power button. I am not sure if that happened when I ran it the first time before I removed the DIMM2 stick.

When I run Prime95 it crashes so fast there is no time to see any temperature change in the CPU. It all stays at around 50-55 degrees celsius. Even when I was running with less threads all the way up to around 10 threads where it was just crashing and not BSOD'ing the highest I got to was about 75 degrees celsius.

Also, I am getting BSOD's when doing light load things like watching youtube videos and playing internet browser Java games. The CPU is almost at idle temperatures when I am getting the BSOD.

I want to continue trying to address this problem if you don't mind, but in the mean time I want to tell you about the system dell offered me for an exchange for the one I have now and wanted your opinion if I am being ripped off or not.

Here are my current specs, followed by the specs of the one they are offering me, along with pricing.

Current Specs:

System: Alienware Area 51 ALX
Processor: Intel (R) Core i7 980x Gulftown @ 3.33 Ghz (2010 processor, Intel Website Price: $1000)
Memory: 3 x 2 GB 1867 Mhz Tri Channel Kingston Hyper X Ram Sticks
Graphics: 2 x ATI Radeon HD 5970 Crossfire
Motherboard: Alienware 0J560M Intel X58 Chipset
Hard Drives: 2 x 640 GB Western Digital SATAII Drives Raid 0 Array
Power Supply: 1000 Watts

New System:

System: Alienware Aurora
Processor: Intel (R) Core i7 4820K (Current Price: $350)
Memory: 4 x 4 GB 1600 Mhz Quad Channel Ram Sticks (Manufacturer Unknown)
Graphics: 1 x ATI Radeon HD 8990
Motherboard: x79 Chipset (Not sure of exact board)
Hard Drives: 2 x 3 TB Hard Drives Raid 0 Array
Power Supply: 875 Watts

When I got this system a family member had to pay $5000 for it and the system they are offering me now is worth around $2500. I am mostly concerned about the CPU and GPU. I just wanted to know also in your opinion if you think this sounds fair or if I am being ripped off. Thanks for your time YoYo. Hope to hear back from you soon.
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07 Nov 2013   #14
YoYo155

Windows 10
 
 

I am out of ideas unfortunately, I'll see if someone else has any other thoughts .

EDIT:
By the way, did you clear the CMOS yet? all other overclocks are null right?

Do you have any use for rivatuner?
If you don't please remove it.

Reset the BIOS back to default:
Note   Note
Write down the current value of the SATA Mode!
Its either AHCI or IDE.
After resetting the CMOS go back and verify the value for SATA Mode is what it was
when the OS was installed.

Note   Note
If any component is overclocked reset it back to stock speeds!
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07 Nov 2013   #15
Meanbunny

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Yes I have reset the CMOS a couple of times.

Some new info. Today I was tinkering with the Bios under the CPU settings and there were a couple settings called TDP and TDC override. They were set to 110 and 130 respectively. Just tinkering around, I set them to 120 and 140. I go back to Prime95 and amazingly no BSOD's. What in the world did I change that made it run Prime95 stable all of a sudden?

Beyond the whole Prime95 issue, what I don't understand is that I ran this computer for 2 years without a single BSOD before I got all my hardware replaced and now I can't even watch youtube videos or play Java browser games without BSOD'ing. I can understand Prime95 crashing because the CPU is not getting enough juice or something, but not while doing light load things like browsing videos and playing Java games.

If anyone else does have any input I would greatly appreciate it.

Also please let me know if you think this sytem they are offering me in exchange is a fair exchange or if I am being screwed over.

Current Specs:

System: Alienware Area 51 ALX
Processor: Intel (R) Core i7 980x Gulftown @ 3.33 Ghz (2010 processor, Intel Website Price: $1000)
Memory: 3 x 2 GB 1867 Mhz Tri Channel Kingston Hyper X Ram Sticks
Graphics: 2 x ATI Radeon HD 5970 Crossfire
Motherboard: Alienware 0J560M Intel X58 Chipset
Hard Drives: 2 x 640 GB Western Digital SATAII Drives Raid 0 Array
Power Supply: 1000 Watts

New System:

System: Alienware Aurora
Processor: Intel (R) Core i7 4820K (Current Price: $350)
Memory: 4 x 4 GB 1600 Mhz Quad Channel Ram Sticks (Manufacturer Unknown)
Graphics: 1 x ATI Radeon HD 8990 (OEM rebranded version of the 7990)
Motherboard: x79 Chipset (Not sure of exact board)
Hard Drives: 2 x 3 TB Hard Drives Raid 0 Array
Power Supply: 875 Watts
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07 Nov 2013   #16
YoYo155

Windows 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Meanbunny View Post
Yes I have reset the CMOS a couple of times.

Some new info. Today I was tinkering with the Bios under the CPU settings and there were a couple settings called TDP and TDC override. They were set to 110 and 130 respectively. Just tinkering around, I set them to 120 and 140. I go back to Prime95 and amazingly no BSOD's. What in the world did I change that made it run Prime95 stable all of a sudden?

Beyond the whole Prime95 issue, what I don't understand is that I ran this computer for 2 years without a single BSOD before I got all my hardware replaced and now I can't even watch youtube videos or play Java browser games without BSOD'ing. I can understand Prime95 crashing because the CPU is not getting enough juice or something, but not while doing light load things like browsing videos and playing Java games.

If anyone else does have any input I would greatly appreciate it.

Also please let me know if you think this sytem they are offering me in exchange is a fair exchange or if I am being screwed over.

Current Specs:

System: Alienware Area 51 ALX
Processor: Intel (R) Core i7 980x Gulftown @ 3.33 Ghz (2010 processor, Intel Website Price: $1000)
Memory: 3 x 2 GB 1867 Mhz Tri Channel Kingston Hyper X Ram Sticks
Graphics: 2 x ATI Radeon HD 5970 Crossfire
Motherboard: Alienware 0J560M Intel X58 Chipset
Hard Drives: 2 x 640 GB Western Digital SATAII Drives Raid 0 Array
Power Supply: 1000 Watts

New System:

System: Alienware Aurora
Processor: Intel (R) Core i7 4820K (Current Price: $350)
Memory: 4 x 4 GB 1600 Mhz Quad Channel Ram Sticks (Manufacturer Unknown)
Graphics: 1 x ATI Radeon HD 8990 (OEM rebranded version of the 7990)
Motherboard: x79 Chipset (Not sure of exact board)
Hard Drives: 2 x 3 TB Hard Drives Raid 0 Array
Power Supply: 875 Watts
Good news (?) .
My guess would be degradation over time perhaps .

About the specifications that Dell is offering you. the price point is not the only thing (although an important factor none the less) You can't really compare the two machines apples to apples sort of speak
the important thing in my mind is the so called 'real world performance' a good way to get a good
baseline is to research benchmarks and see how the (completely different generations and skews)
stack up against each other in your day to day usage case.For example an intel six-core, X79 chipset, CPU
would be awesome in productivity and will crush more mainstream CPUs in that respect but would suffer
where it comes to gaming.
It's up to you to make these considerations based on all of the mentioned above. I hope this clears
my take on the situation .

A couple of benchmark websites I tend to trust.
And obviously our own;
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