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Windows 7: BSOD while gaming, FAULT_PAGE_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA and x050 and more.

26 May 2014   #31
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fuzwipper View Post
I'm sorry guys but I don't know why my pc detects I have that PSU, I currently have a Corsair GS800. And sorry about the Colima thing, got kind of confused there. A thing I also forgot to say is that I will get a lot of artifacting and visual glitches around 10 seconds before this happens.
Then you replaced the PSU that came with the Dell? I can assure you Dell didn't put a Corsair PSU in it.


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26 May 2014   #32
Fuzwipper

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Do you happen to have another card or a friend you can borrow one from, just to test it? 50C is nothing to a GPU card. So, it seems to me that it boils gown to a bad card, bad PSU or bad motherboard. So, the trick is determining which. One way would be to switch a similar card between computers. You could see if your card did the same thing in another computer and how the other card did in your computer. That would answer a lot of questions. It would be best if the cards have a similar power draw and both computers had a sufficient PSU.
Could this be related to other component than the GPU, because as I posted earlier I had the GPU changed 3 times because of similar errors and crashes, or am I just unlucky and got 3 faulty GPUs in a row?
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26 May 2014   #33
Fuzwipper

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I did replace the original one.
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27 May 2014   #34
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fuzwipper View Post
I did replace the original one.
Hum well it certainly looks the goods as power goes Gaming Series? GS800 ? 80 PLUS® Certified Power Supply I suppose you could run the HW Info and click on the Sensors and find the output volts status see pic

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27 May 2014   #35
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Yes, it could be other components. It could be the PSU, the card or the motherboard. Just to be sure go here Latest AMD Catalyst Video Driver for Windows 7 and download the latest driver for your card. Put it on your desktop. Uninstall your current drivers completely, you want nothing left over, This will tell you how. Just be sure you only check display drivers. Drivers - Clean Left over Files after Uninstalling. Once that is done, install the new drivers. After that, if you have problems it is your card, PSU or motherboard. If you install a known good working card and still have the same issue, it will tell you it isn't the card. It is something else. If you do that download the proper drivers for the new card, uninstall your current drivers. When it tells you to restart the computer, shut down instead. Install the new card, then install the drivers for the new card. If the card works good, you will know it is most likely your card. If the new known working card does the same crashes like your card does, you will know it is most likely some other component.
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27 May 2014   #36
Fuzwipper

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Just tested it with the crappy HD 5350 Dell put in originally, no crashes so far, so I'm guessing it is the card, however I am still thrilled of how this could happen 3 times in a row with 3 different cards, is there any way to discard mobo and gpu incombatibility or something, also noticed my HDD has 4 issues with the reallocated sector count, I just want to know if it's anything else because I dont even know if I can still return the card and if I do, it is a 6 month wait to get my new one.

Would trying AMD's beta drivers be a good idea?
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27 May 2014   #37
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Well, the 5450 pull considerably less current that the 7970 does, so it could possibly be the PSU. Corsair PSUs are a top brand, and I own 4 of them right now. But, any of them can go bad. It's rare for a Corsair to go bad, but it does happen. You gave me the voltages from bios and were fine. But, that only tells what they are at idle, not what they do when under a strong draw. The 5350 won't pull very much power. What brand 7970 do you have?

As far as trying Beta drivers, absolutely. When you are looking at an RMA, I would try any drivers to see if it makes a difference. Beta drivers and even older drivers would be worth a try.

I don't know what brand hard drive you have, but I would run the manufacturer's diagnostic program for it. Seagate's is here SeaTools for DOS | Seagate
Western Digital's is here WD Support / Downloads / SATA & SAS / WD Black


You will get better results running the DOS version and running the Short drive self test and the long drive self test.

You can use this to help test the power supply, but it will be difficult to test it under a high stress situation. PSU - Test DC Output Voltage

There is no test I know of which will test the motherboard. It is normally a process of elimination. If everything else in the computer checks out, the only thing left is the motherboard. I don't believe there is any incompatibility issue. The board has an X16 slot and as far as I know, it works or it doesn't.

I would also try a different cable from the card to the monitor before an RMA. Sometimes the cable can be bad also.

I would also consider this To try to tell what is happening with the card. It will tell you almost everything that is happening inside your card. The log can be quite long, so as soon as you start it, do whatever will cause your card to crash as soon as possible. I use Ungine Heaven 4.0. It will stress the card pretty heavily. Probably more than any game you will play. Turn it off as soon as you can to stop it from logging. You can go back to where the card crashed and see what changed immediately before the crash. This will explain it. Graphics Card Problems - Diagnose

EDIT: I also noticed the screenshot of Speccy. If you were just idling, the 47C is high for your CPU. If under stress, it is not too bad. At idle, you should be somewhere in the 30C range.

I saw where you ran memtest. which version did you use and did you download it from this site? http://www.memtest.org/
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27 May 2014   #38
Fuzwipper

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I have an XFX 7970 Double Dissipation, all 3 models that failed were the same.

What I found out with HWinfo is that it seems like my card is running at .850V, so I googled it and found out that the normal voltage for my card is around 11.5-12V, could this be affecting the card? And would changing the cable to another PCI-Express the PSU has fix the issue?

Yes I did use the memtest provided by that website and used the latest and got 0 errors after 9 passes. As for the HDMI cable I am using the cable that came with my Xbox 360 (which I bought like 5 years ago) so it is quite old, would a replacement fit well?

As for the HDD, I could not open the DOS version of my WD Diagnostic Tools, so I downloaded the Windows version and I'm currently testing, will edit with results.

I got another crash right after installing GPU-Z, but now it was just a black screen that happened after my screen froze for about 10 seconds, and then my monitor showed the NO SIGNAL sign it shows when the monitor is on but the computer isn't so I had to hard reboot.
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27 May 2014   #39
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

As far as I know, the HDMI is standard on most things. I don't own an Xbox so wouldn't know about that.

Download, if you don't already have it, GPUz ( GPU-Z Video card GPU Information Utility ) click the sensors tab and at the bottom look at the 12V reading. It will tell you the voltage going to the card. You may be seeing the voltage being used, which isn't a lot at idle.
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27 May 2014   #40
Fuzwipper

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
As far as I know, the HDMI is standard on most things. I don't own an Xbox so wouldn't know about that.

Download, if you don't already have it, GPUz ( GPU-Z Video card GPU Information Utility ) click the sensors tab and at the bottom look at the 12V reading. It will tell you the voltage going to the card. You may be seeing the voltage being used, which isn't a lot at idle.

You were right, when idle it shows .850V but while I was benchmarking it went up to 1.175V

Would over/underclocking the card be a good idea?

I've also updated my previous post with more information.
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