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Windows 7: ntoskrnl.exe BSOD Randomly every few days

02 Jul 2014   #111
Broken Hyoid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Just a quick update. It has been 2 nights and no BSOD, therefore I can confirm that my system is now stable. The problem either lies with the GPU itself or the mobo's PCIE slot. I will confirm this by testing a replacement GPU. Thanks to everyone who helped, it took alot of time and effort from you guys and I appreciate it. Thanks especially to essenbe who put alot of effort into this.


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02 Jul 2014   #112
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Broken Hyoid View Post
Just a quick update. It has been 2 nights and no BSOD, therefore I can confirm that my system is now stable. The problem either lies with the GPU itself or the mobo's PCIE slot. I will confirm this by testing a replacement GPU. Thanks to everyone who helped, it took alot of time and effort from you guys and I appreciate it. Thanks especially to essenbe who put alot of effort into this.
That's no problem at all. That's what we are here for. Just keep us posted on the progress. Inquiring minds want to know.
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15 Jul 2014   #113
Broken Hyoid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Hi,
A quick update on my part sorry for the delay, took quite a while for me to get my hands on a replacement GPU.

Summary of what happened:

-Random BSODs occuring daily multiple times
-Did all tests, nothing conclusive
-Took out GPU, BSODs stopped
-Added different GPU, BSOD occured again
-Currently have no GPU in my pc and will leave it like this for 3 days straight, ensuring the system is stable.

So I assume if no BSODs occur now, that it is my PCIE slot that is faulty, and I have to RMA my mobo completely? No way around this, or anything else I can do?
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15 Jul 2014   #114
gregrocker

 

Wait to hear what Steve says.
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15 Jul 2014   #115
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

As I see it, if you got BSODs on 2 cards and none with the on board graphics, It's a mobo or PSU issue. But, please run the SF diagnostic again. Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions
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15 Jul 2014   #116
Broken Hyoid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Okay another twist... BSOD just happened using on board graphics. So I don't know if this means if the mobo isn't at fault, or if it still is a faulty mobo that has a faulty PCIE as well as faulty on board graphics. I ran the PC on just on board graphics a couple weeks ago aswell and it didnt BSOD for 3 days straight, I thought that meant it was stable, but I guess it was just a lucky(or unlucky) coincidence. BSODs have now happened with 2 different GPUs and on board graphics.

Attached are the dump files. They are all the generic Stop 0x24 BSODs I think, and there are lots of them. Don't know how much use they will be to you, they didn't tell us anything before. here they are anyway.
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15 Jul 2014   #117
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

OK, the dump files showed nothing other than 0X124, a generic hardware fault. Lets try this. First, create a restore point, to enable you to get back to where you are right now, if needed System Restore Point - Create then

Enable driver verifier but only enable the options: Standard settings, IRP logging and Force pending I/O requests step 3.

Enable Driver Verifier to monitor the drivers. Follow this Tutorial for instructions:
Driver Verifier -Enable and Disable
Run Driver Verifier for 24 hours or the occurrence of the next crash, whichever is earlier.

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We use Driver Verifier as it puts a stress on the drivers, and so it makes the unstable drivers crash. This should flag the driver responsible in the dump file.
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Driver Verifier will make the system laggy, this is normal so don't worry.

Before enabling DV, make sure that you have earlier System restore points made in your computer. make a System Restore Point Manually

If there are no points, make one
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15 Jul 2014   #118
Broken Hyoid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
OK, the dump files showed nothing other than 0X124, a generic hardware fault. Lets try this. First, create a restore point, to enable you to get back to where you are right now, if needed System Restore Point - Create then

Enable driver verifier but only enable the options: Standard settings, IRP logging and Force pending I/O requests step 3.

Enable Driver Verifier to monitor the drivers. Follow this Tutorial for instructions:
Driver Verifier -Enable and Disable
Run Driver Verifier for 24 hours or the occurrence of the next crash, whichever is earlier.

information   Information

http://www.sevenforums.com/images/infosmall1.png Information

We use Driver Verifier as it puts a stress on the drivers, and so it makes the unstable drivers crash. This should flag the driver responsible in the dump file.
It

Driver Verifier will make the system laggy, this is normal so don't worry.

Before enabling DV, make sure that you have earlier System restore points made in your computer. make a System Restore Point Manually

If there are no points, make one
I already ran driver verifier for 48 hours with my original GPU in, and it had no effect on the BSODs, they occured at roughly the same frequency. Do you want me to run it again while using on board graphics? The only driver difference between the first time and now would be the on board graphics driver.
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15 Jul 2014   #119
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Yes, try it again now that you are using on board graphics. It's easier than RMAing the board. Certainly worth a try.
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16 Jul 2014   #120
Broken Hyoid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Yes, try it again now that you are using on board graphics. It's easier than RMAing the board. Certainly worth a try.
Okay I ran driver verifier for 24hrs roughly and it didnt make much of a difference, there was a slight increase in the number of BSODs(the errors were the same 0x124) but then again it is probably coincidence, nothing major. I re did the Memtest for my RAM(7 passes 0 errors), and prime95 for CPU(test ran 2 hrs, temp stayed stable and all cores were fine). I had replaced the HDD prior to this as during the tests it was found to have bad sectors, so I RMA'd it, but that clearly wasn't the cause of the BSODs and was just a red herring. I carried out the SeaTools for DOS short and long test on the replacement HDD now and it passed both. And for the GPU, since both GPUs and on board graphics caused the BSODs it isn't the GPU either. So unless the tests have been false negatives or just not testing the right things we have ruled out CPU, HDD, GPU, RAM. That leaves Mobo and PSU. I dont see any way to test either, so I think my best bet now is to RMA the mobo and see if that fixes it, I am leaning towards the mobo being the problem rather than the PSU anyway, the voltages seem adequate. Thoughts?
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