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Windows 7: BSOD's with AGP ATI HD 3450 despite trying all the tricks

01 Sep 2014   #1
bpc23

Windows 7 Pro 32-bit
 
 
BSOD's with AGP ATI HD 3450 despite trying all the tricks

Here's my rig: Dell Precision 650 workstation, Xeon processor, Intel E7505 chipset, 4GB PC2100, SCSI hard drives, VisionTek Radeon HD 3450 512MB AGP video card, ViewSonic Optiquest Q241wb 24" lcd monitor, Windows 7 Professional 32-bit Service Pack 1.

Monitor is using the Generic PnP Monitor driver because no other specific driver is available. The Intel chipset driver is Microsoft 6.1.7601.17514. I used video card drivers from VisionTek and ATI. I've tried lowering the AGP Aperture from 128mb to 64mb. I've tried the fix suggested by torrentg at Install AGP Drivers for HD 3850, 3650, 2400 PRO and that didn't help. I've used Display Driver Uninstaller multiple times prior to installing drivers. RAM and hard drive tests pass. I suspect I need to update my chipset drivers, however, despite extensive searching, no newer ones appear to exist.

When doing nothing particularly taxing to the video system (using Outlook & Excel, watching YouTube videos), I get BSOD's when using higher resolutions, like 1920 x 1200. The popular BSOD is "PFN List Corrupt", among others like "IRQL Not Less Or Equal", "Memory Management", and "Page Fault In Non Paged Area".

My prior older AGP video card using the chip GeForce FX 5500 also caused BSOD's.

Anyone have any other ideas for suggested fixes? Will abandoning the HD 3450 AGP card for a PCI fix the problem?

I appreciate any help.

Brian


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01 Sep 2014   #2
HarriePateman

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Hello and welcome to sevenforums,

Please follow the following instructions and i will be more then happy to help you.

information   Information
Before posting a BSOD thread, please read the instructions here: Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions

If you need to add new information like the dump files, please make a new post in your initial BSOD thread. Please do not make an extra new thread.
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01 Sep 2014   #3
bpc23

Windows 7 Pro 32-bit
 
 

HP, thanks a ton for offer of assistance. I've always been able to solve my problems with extensive Internet research; except for this one.

I'm currently using torrentg's solution with the modified CL_91526 file. I've got my AGP Aperture set to 32MB and Video DAC Snoop set to "ON". Just had a BSOD. I'll save this post to not lose my typing, then attach the new dump files.
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02 Sep 2014   #4
HarriePateman

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

No worries:

Code:
*******************************************************************************
*                                                                             *
*                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
*                                                                             *
*******************************************************************************

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck 50, {f0000004, 0, 9ce8683c, 2}


Could not read faulting driver name
Probably caused by : win32k.sys ( win32k!FHOBJ::bScanLists+6a )

Followup: MachineOwner
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You mentioned you are using a modified torrent file, can you elaborate on this please?
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02 Sep 2014   #5
bpc23

Windows 7 Pro 32-bit
 
 

HP,

I was referring to the post by 'torrentg', another user of this forum, who, in this post Install AGP Drivers for HD 3850, 3650, 2400 PRO proposed a fix for installing HD 3450 drivers.

Brian
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30 Sep 2014   #6
bpc23

Windows 7 Pro 32-bit
 
 
Another BSOD

My system was relatively stable for a while, but it's acting up again. If anyone can make heads or tails of the attached data, I'd really appreciate it.
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01 Oct 2014   #7
HarriePateman

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Hello again bpc23,

So i have analyzed both dump files for you and they are both giving a similar error.

Code:
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*                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
*                                                                             *
*******************************************************************************

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck A, {c01ededc, 0, 0, 82870637}

Probably caused by : memory_corruption ( nt!MiAgeWorkingSet+177 )

Followup: MachineOwner
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I noticed your system has small computer system interface (SCSI) adapters, contact the adapter manufacturer to obtain updated Windows drivers. Try disabling sync negotiation in the SCSI BIOS, checking the cabling and the SCSI IDs of each device, and confirming proper termination.

As this is most probably the cause of this Dump file.

Code:
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*                                                                             *
*                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
*                                                                             *
*******************************************************************************

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck DE, {2, 87c5a664, a7c5a675, 4df748c4}

Probably caused by : memory_corruption ( nt!MmPurgeSection+7a3 )

Followup: MachineOwner
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Okay so both of these dump files are reporting a memory corruption, this can be caused by many things - as they are hard to diagnose.

Fixing this problem is going to take some time as we must troubleshoot many things, but worry i will be here at any point if you need help.


Firstly i noticed allot of errors in your event log (Event Id: 10):
Code:
Event[6577]:
  Log Name: Application
  Source: Microsoft-Windows-WMI
  Date: 2014-09-30T16:54:38.000
  Event ID: 10
  Task: N/A
  Level: Error
  Opcode: N/A
  Keyword: Classic
  User: N/A
  User Name: N/A
  Computer: Precision_650
  Description: 
Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter until the problem is corrected.
Can you download this tool and follow the onscreen instructions: Click Here!




Note   Note
Even though your Dump files are blaming a memory corruption it is possible that other errors could have caused this such as drivers and once we sort them out, the main problem will be solved.

If you encounter bug check 0xA while upgrading to a later version of Windows, this error might be caused by a device driver, a system service, a virus scanner, or a backup tool that is incompatible with the new version.
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14 Oct 2014   #8
bpc23

Windows 7 Pro 32-bit
 
 

Paging Dr. Pateman, Dr. Harrie Pateman to the ER. Harrie, here's what you've asked me to do, and what I've done:

- Contact the adapter manufacturer to obtain updated Windows drivers. No updated drivers available through Dell or LSI. The SCSI interface is part of the MOBO.

- Try disabling sync negotiation in the SCSI BIOS. This doesn't appear to be an option for me. I've been through the entire SCSI BIOS and documentation and didn't find reference to 'sync negotiation' or anything that sounds like it.

- Check the cabling. Cabling checked and is ok. I even changed which connector I use for the primary hard drive.

- SCSI IDs of each device. ID have been verified. Primary drive is 0, second HD is 1, third HD is 2, SCSI adapter is 7.

- Confirm proper termination. The Dell SCSI cable has termination.

- Download this tool and follow the onscreen instructions: Click Here! Done.

I've had a couple BSOD's since the last time and have uploaded the diagnostic files. Any assistance you can lend will be very much appreciated.

Brian
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02 Nov 2014   #9
bpc23

Windows 7 Pro 32-bit
 
 

Here's a few more BSOD's-worth of data. Harrie, any suggestions?

Brian
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