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Windows 7: BSOD (IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, ntkrnlmp.exe) while playing select games

20 Sep 2014   #11
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

The other one was really of no use. It blamed it on the NT Kernel of Windows which is not possible unless you have an altered copy of Windows. Where did you get the DVD disk or the ISO file for your installation? I only ask because everything seems to be pointing to system files as the cause of the crashes, which isn't possible.

Also, I wasn't suggesting you run memtest again right now, I only gave the instructions as I figure you may eventually have to run it again and you will have the instructions. When you ran it, did you download it from the link listed in the post?

Are you using any of the 'speed up windows' type Windows optimizer programs?


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20 Sep 2014   #12
Sithhlord715

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Yeah, most likely is. I downloaded a BIOS updated which came out in 2011 (haven't updated since 2009) and will update/flash in a little bit...I'll let you know what happens.

The main thing thats odd is that some games are fine, while others like Wasteland 2 cause the BSOD...just seems so odd and random
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20 Sep 2014   #13
Sithhlord715

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Sorry, didn't see your other post, but to answer your question, the Windows I'm running is installed from an official disk and has served me well for years. And nope, not running any optimization programs
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20 Sep 2014   #14
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Truthfully, the games thing is not really that uncommon. Some games are coded bad. They will work on some people's machines, but not on others. I have had problems with a few games just like you. You have to be really perceptive to tell the difference. I had that problem with BF4 and nothing else, so I started watching exactly what was going on. I realized it was the game crashing even though the debugger would say graphics drivers or something else, when it wasn't. I could tell it was the game itself crashing. I found that a lot of people were having the same problem with BF4. They kept patching it to try to fix all the problems but each patch made it worse. It finally got to where the game wouldn't even load. EA was absolutely worthless. I ended up just uninstalling the game and had no more problems.

A lot of times they are in a hurry to get the game out as soon as possible and just take shortcuts in the coding, which is never a good idea. But they only care about getting your money. They don't care whether the game is playable or not. That is true. so, in some cases when it is just one or 2 games you have problems with, it can very well be the game.
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20 Sep 2014   #15
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sithhlord715 View Post
Sorry, didn't see your other post, but to answer your question, the Windows I'm running is installed from an official disk and has served me well for years. And nope, not running any optimization programs
No problems. I do that all the time.
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20 Sep 2014   #16
Sithhlord715

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Yeah, I honestly think it is the games themselves, which is a damn shame. I mean, even the most graphic intensive games, like Metro, run fine, yet these games don't. So what do you suggest man? Report this issue to the devs and try to find a temporary solution? Or should I just say screw it and reinstall Windows?
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20 Sep 2014   #17
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Well, I wouldn't be so quick to reinstall windows if it is a game. We may be able to do something a little less drastic first. For right now, tell me how tha game is installed. Is it through steam or Orinin?
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20 Sep 2014   #18
Sithhlord715

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

It's a Steam game. Just like with the other games, most games on Steam are fine (Divinity: Original Sin, Metro 2033 Redux, Skyrim, Fallout: New Vegas), but others cause the BSOD (Marvel Heroes 2015, Wasteland 2, Dawn of War 2 - though this one did it only once or twice I believe). So yeah, not sure. I thought it might be Steam that's the culprit, but then I noticed it occur in other games. Watch Dogs caused a BSOD quickly, and Sims 3 caused it 2-3 times over the course of 60 hours.

Honestly, I'm starting to think it's a hardware issue. My CPU and MOBO are about 5 years old now, and I think when things get too intensive for too long, it crashes. But I'm not sure, since Metro 2033 and 3D Mark are pretty intensive on the system, and WoW can get crazy sometimes in heavily populated combat scenarios. So yeah, it's tricky... I wish the logs and stacktrace would tell us more than of "Kernel problem, but not really Kernel problem"
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20 Sep 2014   #19
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

OK, do you have an external hard drive, or another hard drive you could use? Create a filder on the external and name it the name of the game, and open it. Now open another instance of explorer and open the Steam folder, find the Steam Apps folder and open it, find the Common folder and open it, then find the folder of the game that is causing you problems. Copy that folder to the external drive and Paste it there. Now Delete that game folder, then uninstall the game from control panel. See how it goes now. That way, you can just copy/paste the game back in later, if you want to and Steam will install it and you won't have to re download it.
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20 Sep 2014   #20
Sithhlord715

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

That's a really good idea, though unfortunately, I don't have an external HD =(

However...I do have somewhat good news. I read on reddit that this game thats causing the issue now (Wasteland 2) has an issue where it puts GPU utilization at 99%. A bug no doubt. I made some changes which put the GPU utilization back where it should be, and have been able to play for over an hour without a hitch. I also had Firefox closed this time, if that makes any difference, though I doubt it.

So, could be 1 of 2 things: Games with bugs causing these issues, or too much stress on my "older" hardware causing the BSOD. Probably both: unoptimized code (for my configuration) which causes too much stress, yielding a BSOD.

What do you think? Have we got a case closed here?
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