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Windows 7: Random BSOD - error 1E

22 Oct 2014   #51
tgmorris99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
Please disable Search Index.
Index - Enable or Disable

It will have a cost .... some functionalists of the library will not be accessible. But we want to see how it goes with search index turned off, as disabling IRST gave it a bit stability.

Let us know for any further BSOD after doing it.
It's turned off on the SSD already. So you want me to turn it off on the HDD as well, correct?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc
Also, uninstall Microsoft Securities Essential. Get a fresh copy of it and install it.
It's a new install after I uninstalled AVG 2 weeks ago so it's likely the same version but I'll do it anyway.

I'm still betting it's either a rise time issue on the PSU at this point or corrupted files from the earlier crashes. I'm starting to search for a replacement PSU just in case.


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22 Oct 2014   #52
Arc

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tgmorris99 View Post

It's turned off on the SSD already. So you want me to turn it off on the HDD as well, correct?
Correct.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tgmorris99 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc
Also, uninstall Microsoft Securities Essential. Get a fresh copy of it and install it.
It's a new install after I uninstalled AVG 2 weeks ago so it's likely the same version but I'll do it anyway.
May be the same version, but a clean install will be needed, because it is failing to get the updates. Perhaps a fresh install of the program will solve the issue.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tgmorris99 View Post
I'm still betting it's either a rise time issue on the PSU at this point or corrupted files from the earlier crashes. I'm starting to search for a replacement PSU just in case.
Good idea, obviously. I still go with the second option.
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22 Oct 2014   #53
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Are you on a UPS? If you are, take it off and plug the computer into a wall socket, just to test.
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25 Oct 2014   #54
tgmorris99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I decided to start over again and reloaded things from scratch. This time around I did not load Samsung Magician or the Intel Rapid Storage software. After successfully installing all of the Windows updates I did a full system backup to my WHS 2011 server (which took what seemed like forever) I finally let the system go to sleep.

When I went to wake it up an hour later (via the mouse) I got a black screen so rather than force a reboot I decided to see if it would go back to sleep on its own - which it did. When I tried to wake it again via the power button (wouldn't wake via the mouse) it produced the attached dump.

Indexing is turned off on all the drives. Also, I'm currently plugged into the wall instead of the UPS so that's out of the picture. If there's no clear reason in the dump file I'll put in the new PSU in the hopes that may fix it.

ETA: essenbe, I see in another thread you mentioned Haswell certified PSU. Is it possible my situation is related to that as well?
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25 Oct 2014   #55
Golden
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Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Code:
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*                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
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Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck 9F, {3, fffffa800686ea10, fffff80001b5a4d8, fffffa8008f58ca0}

Probably caused by : pci.sys

Followup: MachineOwner
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0: kd> !irp fffffa8008f58ca0
Irp is active with 4 stacks 3 is current (= 0xfffffa8008f58e00)
 No Mdl: No System Buffer: Thread 00000000:  Irp stack trace.  
     cmd  flg cl Device   File     Completion-Context
 [  0, 0]   0  0 00000000 00000000 00000000-00000000    

			Args: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
 [ 16, 0]   0  0 fffffa800686ea10 00000000 fffff88000d765e0-fffff88000d7a3c4    
	       \Driver\pci	ACPI!ACPIBuildRegOnRequest
			Args: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000002
>[ 16, 2]   0 e1 fffffa800686e7f0 00000000 00000000-00000000    pending
	       \Driver\ACPI
			Args: 00014400 00000001 00000001 00000002
 [  0, 0]   0  0 00000000 00000000 00000000-fffffa800841c7e0    

			Args: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Is Windows 7 fully updated?
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25 Oct 2014   #56
tgmorris99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post
Is Windows 7 fully updated?
Yes, all the updates completed successfully.

ETA: OK, I've disabled the C6/C7 states in the BIOS which, if I understand correctly, should eliminate the PSU incompatibility related to Haswell if that's it.
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25 Oct 2014   #57
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I really can't answer as that power supply is no longer made, so it is not on Cooler Master's list of 'Haswell Ready' Power supplies. But, most are. The only issue, even with the ones that are not is, when entering idle, sleep or Hibernation, most systems have always gone down to around 6 Watts, Haswell will go down to somewhere around 1 Watt. On some older power supplies, when it goes that low, it causes the PSU to think the system is off, or won't wake from sleep. Sound familiar? Try hooking an extra fan directly to the power supply so that even in sleep the fan will run. That should keep the current high enough to solve the problem. If that works (and supposedly does) you will know that is your issue.- Your power supply is not in production any more, so it is difficult to find any current information on whether it is or is not. It looks from the dates I saw on some of the articles about yours, it hasn't been made since before Haswell was released.
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25 Oct 2014   #58
tgmorris99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I've already got a couple of fans that run off the PSU molex connectors but they turn off when the system enters sleep mode. If disabling the C6/C7 mode in the BIOS works then I guess I've also got my answer. It's just here's no real way to prove it except for time.

If that does solve it I'll swap in the new Antec 620C and move the CM supply and my old mobo into a spare case along with the other HDDs since I know that combo works. It'll make a decent spare system.
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25 Oct 2014   #59
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

As best as I can find out, the only difference is going from 5-6W at idle to 1 W. so 4-5 Watts savings is all you are talking about with a Haswell ready VS a not Haswell ready. If disabling C6 and C7 works, it's up to you. I wouldn't worry about it if it works.
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26 Oct 2014   #60
tgmorris99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Setting the C6/C7 sleep to disabled in the BIOS didn't stop the problem so I just swapped the PSU. Now it's a wait and see situation. At least now, other than the case, all of the HW (mobo, SSD, HDD, memory, PSU) is new. If it still happens about all it can be is an incompatibility somewhere, or a bad mobo.

ETA: One things that's definitely different is that it now sleeps almost instantaneously (<2 secs) when manually putting it to sleep. It wakes up a lot faster as well. Hmmm.
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