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Windows 7: BSOD F4

27 Jan 2015   #1
guitarpicker

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
BSOD F4

Greetings,

I am getting this same problem. BSOD Stop message 0xF4. It is happening much more frequently now. It seems like 90% of the time it occurs is when I put in a USB device (bluetooth, or charging cable) into my front USB ports. It has only occured a couple of times when I'm not plugging something in but I believe my bluetooth device was plugged in from bootup. I tried doing the same things as above. I reconnected the wires to the MOBO and I recently reformatted about 1 month ago.

attached is the diagnostics run.

Thanks for any help and support!


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27 Jan 2015   #2
Messerschmitt

windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by guitarpicker View Post
Greetings,

I am getting this same problem. BSOD Stop message 0xF4. It is happening much more frequently now. It seems like 90% of the time it occurs is when I put in a USB device (bluetooth, or charging cable) into my front USB ports. It has only occured a couple of times when I'm not plugging something in but I believe my bluetooth device was plugged in from bootup. I tried doing the same things as above. I reconnected the wires to the MOBO and I recently reformatted about 1 month ago.

attached is the diagnostics run.

Thanks for any help and support!
Wow, something very similar.

Can you please post your complete hardware including make and model
In my case I have
4670k I5
MSI Z87-G45 mobo
ASUS 7970HD
4x4GB G.Skill RipjawsX
Samsung 840 SSD 250GB
WD Black HDD 640GB

Do you have all 4 memory modules populated?
Do you have your case front USB 3.0 connected? Do you have front USB 2.0 connected?
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28 Jan 2015   #3
guitarpicker

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

4670K i5
Z87-D3HP MOBO
Nvidia GeForce GTX760
2x8gb g.skill, only using 2 of 4 slots.
Intel 240 SSD
WD Blacck HDD 1TB

Upon reading this thread I thought this could be ssd related, but I think i'm starting to lean towards USB related.

I have 2 usb2.0 and 2 usb3.0 in front of computer. I have not plugged anything into them for the past 12 hours and used the computer for about 6 of those hours. No BSOD since doing that. I am currently using a fractal design case. Maybe this is a sign of a bad external USB component? What kind of case are you using? Is it the USB's included or aftermarket?
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28 Jan 2015   #4
Messerschmitt

windows 7
 
 

I see, so you are not using an MSI mobo, thought something might be bad with it's USB 3.0 connector for the case. When I bought the computer I was a bit clumsy and heard a "pop" since the connector would fit very hard, although it still worked all this time and only after I moved to a new place I started having the F4 problems.

But you are right, it seems to be something related to the USB's, as most BSOD's happen at the moment something is plugged in (even cables not attached to anything). I do however, get BSOD's even when doing other things, but those are rarer. I also seem to be getting them in "chuncks". Once a BSOD starts, their frequency is a lot more higher, until it quiets down.

Regarding your questions, I am using a Corsair 230T. It came with it's default USB 3.0 cable as it only has 2 USB 3.0 in the front.

Now another question for you. When you get the BSOD, is it sudden, or windows starts to "fail" first (windowses start closing, you can't right click, maybe you lose sound). That's what I'm getting on pretty much all BSOD's. Most often I end up with just the windows wallpaper (since everything else crashed), and then I get the actual BSOD.

Having gotten a BSOD in safe mode when I inserted something into the USB, I tend to thing there is definitely something wrong with the hardware, but I'd like to know which one exactly, so I won't buy a replacement for one that works fine. I was just thinking of replacing my motherboard, but that would be such a hassle especially if it won't fix the problem.
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28 Jan 2015   #5
guitarpicker

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I am nearly positive it was my usb front panel. No problem at all plugging USB's in the back of the MOBO. When i do plug something in the front USB panels, the computer hangs, can't right click and boom, BSOD. If I were you, I would start by unplugging the front USB panel cable from the MOBO and see if you get another BSOD. Make SURE you ground yourself before touching the components. Static electric runs rampant in the winter and can short something or everything.

Also, do you get any beeps on POST? This could indicate hardware failure.

If unplugging the front USB panel doesn't work, start with the easiest things first before replacing the MOBO. Try taking out 1 piece of memory at a time, unhook back-up harddrive, switch to on-board video, etc, all one at a time and see if you get BSOD's still. If nothing after taking a component out after a good week, you most likely found your problem. If you try nearly all peripherals and still get BSOD's, you might have a bad motherboard. Good luck and don't forget to ground yourself before touching inside the computer. If you are unsure of how to ground yourself, look up on a search engine, "how to ground myself when working on a computer".
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28 Jan 2015   #6
Messerschmitt

windows 7
 
 

Unplugging the front pannel is the next I will do. I took out a set of RAM and still had the problem. I had BSOD even by plugging at the back of the computer. And as you mention, they also happen randomly, but much rarer. And just like I said, and you described, windows first starts to hang, can't right click, or left click for that matter, windowses in windows or programs start to shutdown, then in most cases BSOD will occur if I leave it.

Maybe ARC can look up at the Logs, and hopefully there will be a common problem spotted in there that will help us pinpoint our problem. Do you know what causes yours?
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29 Jan 2015   #7
Arc

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