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Windows 7: Different BSODs in ntoskrnl.exe, (Codes: 0x3b - 0xc5 - 0x124)

30 Mar 2015   #21
Slyve

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I apologize, i actually did the Memory testing with Memtest86+ - i wasn't aware that there were different ones.

The Power supply calculator says i need a minimum of 338 Watts and recommends a 388 Watt PSU. I am currently using a 750W bequite PSU (because it was on sale and cost just as much as a 500W PSU, so i bought it. Heard good things about bequite and i am using it for a couple of years now, not sure how long exactly.

I ran Furmark for 15 Minutes and it pushed the GPU quite a bit harder than the Valley Benchmark. Temperature rose up to 68C after a couple of minutes and stayed there for the duration of the test (again, i googled and people said that 15 min are fine for a stability test) If you think a longer test could yield better results, let me know and i will torture the GPU a little more.

When i took the Screenshot (i ran it in FullScreen), Closed Furmark and pasted the Screen into Paint, it actually showed Chrome beneath the actual Test. Not sure what that is about.

I am running Prime95 right now (can you hear the CPU screaming in the background?) and the Temperature just passed 40C and is climbing rather slow from there on. I will let it run for the 2 hours stated in the Tutorial and then I'll try FurMark again. Maybe in windowed mode, so i can get the Screenshot.

Edit: Here is the Speccy Snapshot ( http://speccy.piriform.com/results/d...ON7enZUsKuRAnR )

Keep in Mind that the Snapshot was taken while Prime95 was running, the idle Temperature of the CPU is pretty much at room temperature. Never really paid attention to it when it wasn't being stressed, but i think it usually hovers around 15-20C.

Edit2: I just ran Prime 95 for about 2 hours and it failed to produce the requested log file because i'm an Idiot and ran it straight out of the archive without extracting it first.

It's past midnight and i am tired, i will run it again tomorrow. In those 2 Hours, the CPU performed perfectly and the Temp never rose above 43C.

Could it be that it is somehow the Game itself that causes the Error? (EU4 causes the Crash way more often than other games, i just assumed it's because it's a lot heavier on the CPU than other games.)


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30 Mar 2015   #22
Arc

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If you havent got any error/crash/BSOD etc during all those tests, then tests are all ok.

About the game, yes, it is possible that a poorly coded game can cause a stop 0x124 BSOD.
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31 Mar 2015   #23
Slyve

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
If you havent got any error/crash/BSOD etc during all those tests, then tests are all ok.

About the game, yes, it is possible that a poorly coded game can cause a stop 0x124 BSOD.
I guess i will just try it out by playing something else for a while. Maybe i can even find something that is equally demanding on the CPU and see if the crashes happen again.

One last question, is there any kind of tool that i could use while the game is running to figure out if it actually is the game itself? Some sort of real time logging tool or something similar?

In any case, thank you very much for your help and all the time you spent helping me! I really appreciate it. I don't think I'd have gotten this far without your help!
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31 Mar 2015   #24
Arc

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slyve View Post

One last question, is there any kind of tool that i could use while the game is running to figure out if it actually is the game itself? Some sort of real time logging tool or something similar?
I am not aware of, but I will see if anybody else can tell anything about it.
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31 Mar 2015   #25
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

What I have noticed.

Looking at Speccy.
It shows very low 12V (9.864V) and very low vbat at 1.6V

Check the voltages in Bios.
Check your motherboaed bios battery. I should be 3.0V or very close. (Cmos battery)

Quote:
Voltage
CPU CORE:
1,188 V

DRAM:
1,500 V

+5V:
5,010 V

+12V:
9,864 V

+3.3V:
3,288 V

CMOS BATTERY:
1,608 V

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31 Mar 2015   #26
Slyve

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

The MB isn't that Old. About a year ago my old one went belly up, so the MB is 1,5 years old, tops. I never thought about the fact that the BIOS battery may have something to do with it.

Unfortunately i have no idea about the voltages or even where to look for them in the BIOS, so i just went through all the menus and took a picture of every voltage display i could find! (It was never something that came up for me, so I don't really know anything about the voltages)

I hope this is the Info that you were looking for.
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31 Mar 2015   #27
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

According to your bios your 12V & 3.3V are good.

Check and see if speccy program is up to date.
Their is a chance it's not working properly with your motherboard.

A motherboard battery can be bad when it new or last for years.

If was me I would just use a DVOM and measure the volts.
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02 Apr 2015   #28
Slyve

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I checked with another tool again and it shows the same voltages as my bios. It appears Speccy doesn't like my board all that much.

In any case, all of this seems to point in the direction of the game suffering from crappy coding, which i wouldn't have thought of in 10 more years of error hunting, to be honest.

As long as the error doesn't happen in other applications, i think i found the bad guy.

Thanks again you two!
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15 Apr 2015   #29
Slyve

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Well, looks like I'm back where i started. It isn't the game, other games cause the crash as well.

I have no idea what else i could try and am pretty much ready to just give up and deal with the fact that my system just won't be stable. Someone told me that i could try to bump the voltages on the CPU and RAM, but I'm reluctant to mess with that. I have no idea about overclocking or voltages so i don't want to risk frying my system because i screw something up.

Is there anything else i could try?

I just can't afford buying new parts for testing or pay a technician to take a look at it. Also, since the error is random and i haven't been able to reproduce it on purpose, i doubt that would even be an option.
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15 Apr 2015   #30
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

If you are getting more BSOD please post new logs so Archie can have a look.
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