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Windows 7: Different BSODs in ntoskrnl.exe, (Codes: 0x3b - 0xc5 - 0x124)

16 Apr 2015   #41
Arc

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You remove the CMOS battery and re-seat it.

If still it shows abnormal voltages, IMHO you need to apply any other PSU, at least as a test.

If all the pins on the motherboard are occupied for ATX12V and there are extra pins on the connector, that is not any issue.


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16 Apr 2015   #42
Slyve

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Alright, i took out the CMOS Battery and put it back it, carefully. It is 3v.

When i rebooted, it showed a CMOS Checksum error, which i assume is normal when you remove the Battery. It only gave me the option to restore the "last known working configuration" or something similar, the screen was only there for a couple of seconds before it continued automatically.

The Voltages in Speccy and PC Wizard are still as weird as before. Only difference is that my CPU is now only showing 2 cores, which is weird.

Edit: Forget about the cores. All 8 are there after a reboot.

I'll probably keep a lookout for a new PSU, then. At the very least a PSU should be Cheaper than a GPU.
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16 Apr 2015   #43
Slyve

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
If all the pins on the motherboard are occupied for ATX12V and there are extra pins on the connector, that is not any issue.
It's actually the other way around. I have 8 12v connectors on the MB and only 4 on the PSU, so 4 are left empty on the MB.

The Manual shows this, so i think it should be fine, but I don't know for sure. It's a little unclear what the manual says to this. At least to me. But since the System is booting, i assume it's fine, right?
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16 Apr 2015   #44
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slyve View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
If all the pins on the motherboard are occupied for ATX12V and there are extra pins on the connector, that is not any issue.
It's actually the other way around. I have 8 12v connectors on the MB and only 4 on the PSU, so 4 are left empty on the MB.

The Manual shows this, so i think it should be fine, but I don't know for sure. It's a little unclear what the manual says to this. At least to me. But since the System is booting, i assume it's fine, right?
The PSUs provide the maximum so that it can be fit on any board. But the board are different, depending on the form factor and some other specifications, they may have less than the maximum.

At your present condition, this is not the point to be worried of. It is OK and fine.

But the PSU itself may be.

We already have Layback Bear with us, he knows hardware and its timings and voltages much much more than that I do. Please wait for his suggestion as well.
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22 Apr 2015   #45
Slyve

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

So, after i had the PC opened up the last time, it has only crashed once, since then, it seems to be stable. I'm still within the period where it could get back to crashing at any time, but i spent the last couple of days playing GTA V, which taxed my PC way more than other games i usually play.

When i had it open, i removed the CMOS Battery and all Power Cables (except those that connect the DVD drive and the hard drives) cleaned what little dust there was (i had cleaned it recently, so there was barely any) and switched 2 of my Case Fans for newer ones i recently bought. I also removed the graphics card, because the CMOS Battery is directly under it's fan. Then i carefully put everything back together and booted it up. Crashed a couple of hours later one time.

Next up i reinstalled Open Hardware Monitor, which i hadn't used since i reinstalled my OS. Found out that it has this neat little function where it logs pretty much every sensor data there is (Voltages, Bus Speeds, Load and so on) in real time, which i thought would be perfect to show you guys (since i can't do anything with those Infos on my own) what exactly is happening at the moment of a crash.

Since i started logging, it hasn't crashed once. Personally i assume out of pure spite at this point, but i am willing to consider that maybe i fixed some loose cable or something while the PC was open. Don't know why it crashed once, but if the error doesn't come back, i really don't care.

I still have all the Log Files it created the last couple of days (i never stopped it from logging since it's running all the time anyway - i use it to show me CPU and GPU Temperatures via a windows gadget)

It creates the logs as .csv files, which i assume are excel files which i can't open since i don't own word. OpenOffice screws the format up so all the data is bunched together and virtually indecipherable. Tried another free spreadsheet tool but it can only open the files when there is just a little bit of info in them. After a couple of hours the files tend to get very big (it logs 1 line per second) and at a certain size, the tool can't seem to handle the files anymore.

Since it appears that the error is gone for now, i will try to enjoy the stable times ahead and hope it won't come back, because I'm getting really tired of expecting a BSOD at any moment.

Again, thank you all very much for your time!
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22 Apr 2015   #46
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Very well documented, very nice post. And I am happy to know that it is stable now.

But BSODs are unpredictable. They may come back again one day. And I am sure now that this issue will not be able to fool you anymore. For any assistance if needed, we are here.
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23 Apr 2015   #47
Slyve

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
Very well documented, very nice post. And I am happy to know that it is stable now.

But BSODs are unpredictable. They may come back again one day. And I am sure now that this issue will not be able to fool you anymore. For any assistance if needed, we are here.
Not even 24 hours after i dared to think "Maybe it won't crash again" it crashed again. This means that my PC just straight up hates me. There is no technical defect, this is just a personal vendetta. I don't even know why, i always treated it nicely. Never pushed it too hard, always made sure it's clean and comfortable...

But on a more serious note, i think i will try to switch the PSU, if i can find one. Don't want to buy a new one until i know it actually is the PSU.

I'll also attach the log file of Open Hardware Monitor. Maybe the Data in there can help a little.

The File is formatted very weird. I got it to finally show correctly by telling OpenOffice to separate it by commas and not with spaces, otherwise it gets screwed up and you can't see anything. The Problem here is probably that i have no experience with spreadsheets of any kind. (See the attached Screenshot.)

If you or Layback Bear can find anything in that File that could help, I'd be very grateful. If there isn't anything in there, I'll just hope i can find a PSU to test it. Otherwise i will try the other GPU and work my way forward from there.

I'll also attach the dump file from today, better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
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23 Apr 2015   #48
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Can you please confirm the motherboard's revision version? It would be found here as the image:
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23 Apr 2015   #49
Slyve

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
Can you please confirm the motherboard's revision version? It would be found here as the image:
I checked on the Box, it's the Rev. 5.0, so i used the correct drivers from the Homepage, although i currently have the more recent ones directly from AMD installed. The Crashes happened with both driver versions, though.
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23 Apr 2015   #50
Arc

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Nice info.

As you stated in post #33 .... you have done almost everything possible.

Now, is there any other hardware or devices attached there with the computer? Any USB or PCI devices? If so, disconnect them. See how it goes.
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