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Windows 7: Front Case Fan Causing BSOD? Error 0x000000F4

16 Apr 2015   #11
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

My concern is if the fan or fan switch is connected directly to the motherboard and has a current over draw it might damage the motherboard.
Of course the BSOD logs and suggestion is in your ball park.


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16 Apr 2015   #12
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

I never noticed the fan switch Jack, my mistake. I would presume it has to be connected to the motherboard somewhere along the line, and given that the board carries 2x4-pin CPU connectors and 3x4-pin system fan connectors I'd be looking at disconnecting the fans from the switch and connecting them directly to the motherboard.
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16 Apr 2015   #13
GNTSquid

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Boozad View Post
What are using to control the fans? Software or hardware? It could be completely coincidental that the BSOD occurs then because off the top of my head I can't make a connection between fans ramping up and an SSD throwing up errors. We need to know the results of the Toolkit diagnostics before we go any further.

The boot order shouldn't matter, if you were trying to boot from a on-OS HDD first it would just add seconds onto your boot time as there is no bootable media on there.
I don't use anything to control the internal or rear case fan/s. I let those all run at their factory settings.
The front case fans in question are controlled with hardware. On the front of the case at the bottom is a slider switch with 3 positions. Left, center and right. Left is High, Center is Off and Right is Low.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear
The motherboard temps are over twice of what they should be.
Of course the BSOD logs and suggestion is in your ball park.
My MoBo is running hotter than it should be? Yikes! How'd you find that out? This sort of PC troubleshooting is way out of my range of knowledge.

And if it will help any here are the specific parts I have in the computer.

MSI z97 Gaming 7 Mobo

Kingston Hyper X FURY 4GB Ram

MSI GTX 970 Video Card

intel i7 4970 3.6GHz

The HD in question
SanDisk Extreme 120GB SSD
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16 Apr 2015   #14
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I made a mistake with your motherboard temps. I have corrected my post.
I got your thread mixed up with another thread that is almost the same.

Forgive me for my boo boo.
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17 Apr 2015   #15
GNTSquid

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I finally got around to downloading that SanDisk SSD Toolkit. There wasn't much to the program but my Firmware was already up to date and it said under the "SMART Attributes" tab that the "Overall SMART Status" is PASS. There was an option to Export data to a .CSV file so i did that and will upload. I also took some screen grabs of the SMART Attributes chart. I don't know what any of it means.




I also popped the case open to try to find how the fans were connected but I couldn't find any sort of concrete evidence of where it was plugged in, but i'm pretty sure its the MoBo but I couldn't tell you exactly was socket. I checked the manual but couldn't find anything either about where the fans were plugged in. I just wish I could remember what I had done when I built the thing.
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17 Apr 2015   #16
cipley

Windows 7
 
 

CMIIW, but I found this very interesting here:

Code:
AE	Unexpected Power Loss Count	100		6	N/A
Apparently the "Unexpected Power Loss" occur when you switch the fan to High, thus causing windows to throw exception "drive not found" or something like that....

Regarding the power outlet to Mobo, I think Boozad knows better...
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17 Apr 2015   #17
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

So the drive looks healthy apart from those power losses. That could well be down to the fans switching but how I don't know. Did we get a make and model of PSU here? Please add that to your system specs. And the case as well if you know what it is.

I think the first course of action would be to disconnect the front fans from the switch and get them connected to the motherboard connections.
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17 Apr 2015   #18
GNTSquid

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

PSU is a EVGA SuperNOVA 750 80 Plus Gold Full Modular and the Case is a Rosewill Legacy QT01-B

Forgot to add earlier. When I had the case open I double checked everything was fully plugged in on the Mobo, SSD, and PSU and everything was good, no loose connections.
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17 Apr 2015   #19
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

So the fans connected to the switch came built into the case? And where is the switch located that changes the fan speed?
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17 Apr 2015   #20
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

If it was my computer I would not use the fan or the fan switch. It's not worth taking a chance on damaging other things.

I would replace the fan and not use the switch. When you buy a lower priced case you get lower priced fans and fan switches.
My Corsair 600T has a fan switch and I haven't used it in years. I don't trust them. I have also replaced every fan in the 600T.
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