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Windows 7: Win7 ult x64 has variety of crashes/BSODs, many without crashdumps

07 Jul 2015   #11
Raiktarakk

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Build 7601, 6.1.7601
 
 

I actually bought this pc right before 7 was released, it came with a free upgrade (vista to 7) disk a few months later.
It did NOT get a vista installer with it for some reason, so reinstalling windows is gonna be a problem...
Do you have any idea what exactly is causing these crashes, and perhaps some kind of workaround?
*edit*
Looked around, found the upgrade disk in case you don't believe me.
Is there any reason why it wouldn't be compatible with this motherboard BIOS?
I assumed it wouldn't matter, been running windows 7 on it for a long time but crashes have been more common than on my vista-vista laptop...


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07 Jul 2015   #12
NoelDP

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Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

Nope - I can't honestly say I ever look at that particular line in a report

It's the BIOS date in this case which gave it away - and not much else!
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07 Jul 2015   #13
NoelDP

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Raiktarakk View Post
I actually bought this pc right before 7 was released, it came with a free upgrade (vista to 7) disk a few months later.
It did NOT get a vista installer with it for some reason, so reinstalling windows is gonna be a problem...
Do you have any idea what exactly is causing these crashes, and perhaps some kind of workaround?
The free upgrade to Windows 7 was ALWAYS via an OEM_NSLP Product Key, as that was independent of the original motherboard.
The installed Key is an OEM_SLP Key, which relies on a Windows7-compliant BIOS SLIC table.
These tables cannot possibly be present legally on any machine with a BIOS dated before the RTM date of Windows 7 (22/7/2009).
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07 Jul 2015   #14
Raiktarakk

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Build 7601, 6.1.7601
 
 

Whoa, that OEM and SLIC stuff is complete Greek to me, so sorry if I don't understand the importance or even what this means in respect to any problems/crashes.
Now that I think of it, this pc has been brought to some repair guy by my parents several years ago (think I mentioned the problematic hdd before) and I'm not quite sure what he did.
Is it possible that some windows installers just cause problems when running on.. specific hardware?
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07 Jul 2015   #15
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Raiktarakk, here is the very short abbreviated version. In order for that Operating system to be activated on your computer requires a hacker's exploit which alters protected system files. When you alter the files that make the system work, you should expect the system to not run properly.

Counterfeit installations such as yours contain heavily modified code that causes the installation to behave it unexpected ways. Analyzing BSOD's and determining their causes on these sorts of installations is very unreliable. For this reason, many analysts won't attempt it.

My recommendation is to install a genuine Windows 7. This will minimize the problems you are experiencing, and make subsequent diagnosis of BSOD's far more reliable. Once you are running a Genuine Windows 7 installation, and are still experiencing BSOD's, we will be happy to help you solve them
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15 Aug 2015   #16
Raiktarakk

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Build 7601, 6.1.7601
 
 

It may be useful to point out that there haven't been any crashes for several weeks, and all I did was take out my 2 RAM cards then click them back in, and install more updates...
There seems to have been a problem with my RAM then?
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15 Aug 2015   #17
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Your operating system came installed on another computer and is legal only on that computer.
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15 Aug 2015   #18
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Just a thought - what was on that machine that you upgraded to 7 from because the experts here are saying what you have is not legal. From some searches around for that board I am going to assume it was XP?? or at least Vista.



What I am trying to get at is where did you get the machine - an original purchase or is it a used model or a refurbished one because whoever sold you that machine I am guessing has sold you a pup if it is not an original buy. The other likelihood could be that someone has "fixed" it for you and has done some rather unprofessional things to it.



Just what is the model number? as it doesn't say anywhere.



Lastly just swapping RAM sticks around would not cause you all these headaches - it simply doesn't make sense, and running Ultimate 64bit with just 4GB DDR2? RAM is hobbling you a bit.
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17 Aug 2015   #19
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

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