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Windows 7: random bsod adobe LR often not always, may be double faults?

03 Oct 2016   #21
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

RACE mate Boris will be around sometimes posts get behind because of the time difference

If I could I would help out mate but I am just a newbie with that stuff more into hardware than anything.

Now with the overclocking are you able to reset any you have set up or are you actually giving it too much? My own Ivy Bridge has been playing up for some time and the clock settings, boot options etc in the BIOS kept changing back and forth making my life a misery. To cut a long story short it turned out to be the CMOS battery was just out of juice and a replacement battery has fixed the thing. Might be worth checking yours out for volts mate - as I said mine had drained to 1.02v and since I slipped in the new battery the machine flying again.
Now I am not sure if I linked my ditty on checking the PSU and various other component volts if I did just check that again the Vbatt on the "Nuvoton" board should tell you and volts on other stuff too. Let me know if I did send the ditty eh?


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04 Oct 2016   #22
BorisTheAnimal

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RACE View Post
WELL, as usual, spoke too soon. Thirty minutes back it started just hanging the mouse and music stutter lock. wait a bit, it comes out for a few seconds. I am assuming that this overclocking thing is just not doable no matter how small it is. I have never had it work. BSOD and thus a new dump after a while. I have put it all back to defaults now. shall see. For Boris if you could, I would like to see if the other dumps have other issues in them. Still, better than was.
Hang on, are you serious about the overclock?

If you are, no wonder you've been getting BSODs.

Actually we normally recommend users to reset OCing while troubleshooting because it causes so much trouble, I must have missed that one. So please take down the OC to base values!

Cheers, Boris
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04 Oct 2016   #23
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

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So please take down the OC to base values!
Yes well I was hinting at that too Boris but just wanted to know if RACE had set it or someone else had for my money I would set the BIOS to default for starters.
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04 Oct 2016   #24
RACE

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Hello again! NO, Boris, the OC was all after the fixing and is now back at stock, for, as I said I have never had it work and think it largely a myth. I have today been running into mouse/keyboard hard locks on both machines. SO
I have
1. Redone, again all drivers for mouse keyboard video on both machines
2. found on internet that this is a common problem w/ windows. I have done the suggested settings for Win7 in the UAC and it (seems) to be working on this machine, the one that has had all the real problems, but not the other one. It appears it is just turning off all USB ports at some random time.
3. I have run sfc /scannow on both machines at least 2X. It claimed issues on both machines. An observation is that my desktops have both gotten rearranged much by the system after scannow so, I do not know how deep scannow actually gets, just that it is done.
4. I am now hoping to ask you about the other dump files as I really suspect that there may be other issues.
5. Please remember I reflashed BIOS on this machine on 2 of the 3 bios that are available. I have never gotten to the #3 and it may be the old version. I am on defaults now.

Again. you guys have been wonderful and I do hope to get this made good again.

For Boris: glad to see you again here, we have a 6 hour difference so, not always fast. I have to go out of and back into this website to see replies. I do not know why they do not just show up. Thanks again.
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05 Oct 2016   #25
BorisTheAnimal

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Okay, no OC. Good.

5. I'm sorry but wha just wha are talking about? Do you mean that you have taken a BIOS that isn't the most recent one?

And for number 4, I will look at them tonight after work, there now until like 3pm.

Sorry for not staying that active, have been kinda restless these past days. And lots of things to do.

Cheers, Boris
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05 Oct 2016   #26
RACE

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 
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GoodDay Again. Sir, I thought that what I wrote was clear, however, that is not so. start over

I have installed, in 2 positions on the mobo, the very last bios from evga. The mobo has a 3 position switch for 3 each bios installs. On positions 1 and 2 I have ver 1.22. That is the latest as this is a no longer serviced mobo. position 3 I have never even used and thus, (I suspect) has probably got v 1.21 which is what it shipped with. Now on Ver. 1.22 on position 2.

my very brief foray into OC is OVER. Done. finished. OC has never produced a usable result for me (no matter how tiny the change) and thus I will not attempt it again. Machine has had bios defaults loaded. I did select xmp1 in the memory section and no other changes. This would have had zero impact on your very helpful instructions as it was after that time.

Other than the very aggravating USB issue, I have had near 24 hours of on time without problem including 6 hours on Lightroom which is likely the most demanding program I use daily.

I have the program from windows to read dumps and have installed the symbols link. So, I can see the info, it just mostly makes no sense as I have no training in this area. Still, interesting. That is why your expert advice is so valuable Boris! You actually know something about these items. I will attach 2 more if you are willing to look and tell me what the item is in them. I may help my future use. (the downloader tool says that the dmp files are invalid and will not take them) Thus, I have run the dm log tool you sent me again, do not know if it is any use.

As SCANNOW reported 335 errors corrected the first time it ran I suspect that alone will be of some help. Thank you all for that and I have made a permanent note about that item. In the interest of keeping the forum on task I shall mark this as solved. You gentlemen have been of great service to a stranger. I shall monitor so that if you have more insight Boris I shall certainly pay very close attention.

THANK YOU BOTH and a big WELL DONE!!


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05 Oct 2016   #27
BorisTheAnimal

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Hello RACE.

In the future please do not mark a thread unless you don't get any more BSOD's!

The BSOD was 1A memory_management and I would recommend that you follow the tutorial below, just to be sure:

RAM - Test with Memtest86+

Cheers, Boris
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05 Oct 2016   #28
RACE

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 
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Thank you for reply. I did not know protocol here. Will ask next time. Just for info I ran memtest on each stick about 4 days back for over 2.5 hours each (2pass and a bit of 3, I got tired, it took 14 hours.) All said no errors. To make sure I will start it tonight and run at least 2 passes w/ all 4 sticks in the machine. Will put up the results tomorrow. If it goes on fast enough I may let it go 3 passes. (that would be ~20 hours) Thank you again.
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06 Oct 2016   #29
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RACE View Post
Thank you for reply. I did not know protocol here. Will ask next time. Just for info I ran memtest on each stick about 4 days back for over 2.5 hours each (2pass and a bit of 3, I got tired, it took 14 hours.) All said no errors. To make sure I will start it tonight and run at least 2 passes w/ all 4 sticks in the machine. Will put up the results tomorrow. If it goes on fast enough I may let it go 3 passes. (that would be ~20 hours) Thank you again.
Hmm well RACE mate it is no good running memtest for less than 8 passes as it states - you may as well not bother.
I suggest you run it overnight or start early evening and then through the night that is what I would do. You have to remember that not only have you got 32GB RAM but also I suspect four sticks?? Now that in in itself will take time - I could be wrong but testing just one stick may take less time but as I said you probability have four so just be patient and if indeed this is the problem then you are shooting yourself in the foot for the sake of checking those sticks.
Notwithstanding the test can or may show up errors in the slots just because you get errors will not necessarily mean it is the sticks. In that case then you will have to test each stick in each slot until you pin the culprit down.
So it could be worse ie
Stick 1 in slot 1,2,3,4 then stick 2 in slot 1,2,3,4 and so on in effect checking every stick for 8 passes in every slot unless you get lucky and pin it down to the stick that is bad but it still means checking the sticks in turn in a known good slot!!
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06 Oct 2016   #30
RACE

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 
memtest

gentlemen, I just ran memtest for 24 hours 30 minutes it did 4 passes only barely in that time. As each test pass takes longer than the previous one, I did stop. If this test is not useful in less than 8 passes what is it doing? If I do the time calculation gain it will take 80 hours to be close to 8 passes. Is that even usefuL? I ran this test to 2 passes just 4 days ago overnight on one stick at a time and it took 14 hours. zero shown errors in 24 hours w/ all those multiple billion calculations should absolve something it seems. If I am in error then let me know why.

ICIT2LOL: In just re-reading your comment, this appears to be around a possibly 100 hour test. Is there some kind of tester that can be purchased? I was hoping to do work on this machine this week not testing. Still, I have lost the contract over this useless thing, so, It is less meaningful now. If it is the 1,2,3,4 thing, I will still be out at least 4 days. Will repost if that is really what it takes... I assume you all will answer later.
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