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Windows 7: new cpu BSOD, error 0xA, 0x50, 0xD1

27 Oct 2016   #1
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new cpu BSOD, error 0xA, 0x50, 0xD1, 0x101

hello, yesterday my "new" cpu arrived (amd athlon 64 x2 6000+) and since is started using it my pc keeps on blue screening. i checked the wattage of my psu and everything (applied new thermal paste), hardware-wise it should be ok (unless the cpu itself has been damaged, which is possible, since it's been used before).
i reistalled my os twice (win 7 x64 home premium) and i kept running into the same bsods even after the second reinstall. so far i've got 4 different types, but one of them i don't remember anymore, and i don't have the .dmp file of it either, because it happened before the second time i reinstalled the os.
here's the errors i got most often:
0x00000050 PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA caused by driver ntoskrnl.exe
0x0000000a IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL caused by driver ntoskrnl.exe
and this one i got only twice overall i believe (once so far after the last reinstall)
0x000000d1 DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL caused by driver nvlddmkm.sys
the first two errors i listed generally occur after using the pc for about 30 mins or so, although cpu usage looks just fine to me (didn't get to see it over 90% yet). cpu temp is generally fine as well (from 37 C idle goes up to 75+ C while gaming, from the limited test time i had).
also, i checked the ram. i switched them entirely with some old ones that i tested in the past using memtest i believe, and still getting the same errors.

update 1 :i started a driver verify, and since it hasn't yet crashed (2 hrs or so), so perhaps the bsod aren't related to how long my pc has been running.

update 2 :since update 1 (1 hr or so prior to this update) i encountered 3 other bsod
0x000000d1 DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL caused by driver nvlddmkm.sys (although not sure)
0x00000050 PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA caused by driver win32k.sys
0x00000101 "a clock interrupt was not received on a secondary processor within the allocate time interval" caused by driver ntoskrnl.exe (got 3 of those, one after turning the driver verifier off.)

the first two bsods of update 2 haven't generated dump files, but the third one did (i reuploaded the file).
also, i noticed that before the last two crashes an error message saying "Application error - chrome" (i was trying to edit this post during that time). the message was there for a split second, had a white window but no text in it, and was followed by blue screen.

Shortly after update 2 i stopped the driver verifier.

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28 Oct 2016   #2
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hello and welcome ration mate your system specs are very sketchy so please do this System Info - See Your System Specs

Now the nvlddmkm.sys dump error is usually because you need to update the graphics driver for your card
Drivers | GeForce the other dump is very common and I usually find it hard to track down what is going on with it because it could be one of many things.

I have to say that to game heavily as you imply you do 3GB RAM is a very small amount of memory to have on board. I would at least try increasing it by adding another 2GB RAM stick instead of having the 1GB stick I suspect you have. If you do that I would make sure you get a stick that closely mathches the timing etc of the original 2GB stick.
If you go down that path use PART B: of this
Using HW Info
PART A:
You can test the volts on the PSU with HW Info HWiNFO, HWiNFO32/64 - Download < download the right bit version and close the right hand window select Sensors and scroll down to the power section where you will see what the volts are doing see my pic. In my pic the section (Nuvoton) with VBATT as a dead give away you are in the section for the rail voltages. There are other section titles and one that pops up often is ITE (sometimes the usual one for Gigabyte boards)
Now the voltage on the different rails have to be within 5% =+/- of what is required or the machine will not work properly if at all.
Limits +/-
12v = 11.4 – 12.6v
5v = 4.74 – 5.25v
3.3v = 3.135 – 3.465v
The Power good signal voltage at pin 8 on the 24 pin plug (grey cable) should be the same as the 5v rail reading/s
See this for the rail voltage info
PSUs 101: A Detailed Look Into Power Supplies (Section 2.)
The original right hand window shows the machine running and is handy for that but for looking at the components in some detail close it and use the main left hand side panel
FOR OTHER COMPONENTS
PART B:
Open each small square with + in it on the section the components are in and then click on the individual component/s (it will highlight in blue) - in the right hand side will appear all sorts of details including brands speeds and other essential info that particular device. See pic for example.
Plus it is very good for seeing just what you have in the machine and in great detail.


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28 Oct 2016   #3
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

first of all, thanks for the quick reply, i didn't think i'd get an answer on such a long post so quickly.
secondly, i'm sorry for the lousy system specs, i didn't actually think someone'd check them (i know, i should have expected it, since it's hardware related).


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
I have to say that to game heavily as you imply you do 3GB RAM is a very small amount of memory to have on board.
what can i say, i've got a low budget and a lot of patience.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
You can test the volts on the PSU with HW Info HWiNFO, HWiNFO32/64 - Download < download the right bit version and close the right hand window select Sensors and scroll down to the power section where you will see what the volts are doing see my pic.
i've somehow failed to find the thing you're referring to(sorry,i did try.), but instead i got two screenshots of the menu you probably wanted me to be in, and the values of the voltage which i got from my bios menu:
CPU 1.352
3.3V 3.360
5.0V 5.087
12.0V 11.880
5VSB 5.003
(seeing as how they are within the parameters you gave me, this should mean that my psu is just fine for this setup?)
i would also like to consider that there's a chance my cooler is the problem. from what i've discovered, it seems to me that at least 0x50 and 0xA happen also when my temp is higher than 60 C, i didn't get the chance to check the temperature before the other errors (since i literally have to watch the value since it can't be stored when bsod occurs)

update: i checked the graphics driver, which i knew i had the last version of, since yday i reinstalled my os, but it turns out they released another version today. i updated my driver, then restarted my pc and so on, tested it and it seems it's still giving me bluescreens(0x50). however, during this, i was closely watching my temperature, it seems that this one also happened at +60C (70C to be specific).


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28 Oct 2016   #4
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Ok mate now the 12v rail volts from the PSU is or looks to be falling - worth keeping an eye on that because the PSU is often very underrated as a cause for problems.

The 0x50 error looks to me to be memory related - according to this Bug Check 0x50: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA - Windows 10 hardware dev and if it were me I would be running this - it i the only memtest we recommend RAM - Test with Memtest86+ Just make sure you run it for at least 8 passes any less and you may as well not bother. It does take quite a while to run - not so much with just 3GB RAM and if errors come up before the 8 passes you can stop the test and then it is a matter of testing each stick on it's own to find the problem - sorry but that means replacement - there is no cure. See pic for what you will see if there are errors and as a by the by the etst a lot of people ru it after the days use and then overnight but yours shouldn't take that long

Lets do that first and at least it rules it out if all clear and I know the budget is no t much but you reallly would benefit from the extra RAM


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28 Oct 2016   #5
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
Ok mate now the 12v rail volts from the PSU is or looks to be falling - worth keeping an eye on that because the PSU is often very underrated as a cause for problems.
does this mean i have to get a better/more powerful psu?(i thought i was within the limits you posted earlier)

i'll run the memtest tomorrow and post the results.
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28 Oct 2016   #6
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

No the PSU is ok just keep half an eye on it if things really go wrong.

Now in the event you have to buy one you can use this OuterVision Power Supply Calculator all you need to do is fill in the components list and hit the blue calculate button and it will give you an estimated power wattage for the PSU and it does err on the side of caution that is to say that if for example the calculate comes up with a recommended wattage of 350W see pic of one that I have quickly and randomly filled in to see what the end readout is like.


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29 Oct 2016   #7
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alright, nearly 11 hours later, after 8 passes, i got no error (see the pic)

now i'm pretty confident it's because of the cpu overheating, but again, i might be wrong.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
No the PSU is ok just keep half an eye on it if things really go wrong.
regarding this, i'd like to know if i replaced, say, my cpu fan with a better one that consumes 30w more, does this mean the value of the 12V voltage would go even lower?

right now i'm thinking replacing the cpu fan should do it, but i'd like to know if it also means replacing the psu.

also, regarding the site you linked me to, for calculating the wattage, i've already used it, and it says i'm still about 90w below what my current psu gives. (363w consumption according to the site, vs 450w which my psu can give).


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29 Oct 2016   #8
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

No mate the fan would have no effect on the voltage only the amount of extra current required and usually fans are not that great a drain - amps wise. So there would be no need to change the PSU and if the figures are correct then that is putting out enough amps (watts) to run everything.

See everything in an electrical circuit as you probably know is related to each value as dictated by the Ohms law. Ohm's law - Wikipedia > see circuit analysis.

Simply put in each three sided equation (I think of them as triangles) any one value is calculated by either multiplying or dividing a set value by the other two
example: Current is calculated as current (I) = volts (V) divided by x resistance (R)

Now power not clearly stated in Wiki is watts (P) being calculated as volts (V) multiplied by current (I)
So if you have a 12 volts rail and a current of 25 amps you multiply the volts by the current to give you the power in that circuit = 300Watts (P)

So an increase in say 0.01 amps for a 5 volts fan is negligible (0.05 watts)

Now for me 90 watts "overkill" is not really that much I like to run with around 150 watts to spare but 90 is ok .
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29 Oct 2016   #9
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alright, thanks for your reply and help so far, i'll get the fan in a few days and let you know how it went.

and btw, just saying, i've graduated from an engineering highschool, but i've always been bad at applying those things to practical situations.
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4 Weeks Ago   #10
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Oops preaching to the converted then I just learnt my stuff over the years from an interest in electronics - especially my fascination with vacuum tubes (valves as we called them)

I am a registered nurse by profession and glad of my interests because most of the stuff we use for documentation and measuring etc etc has gone electronic

Well as for the fan well don't expect too much out of it because it can only cool as much as the heatsink can transfer. I think if the budget stretched a little bit then a more efficient cooler would be the go. I myself like liquid cooling rather than the air coolers which can be very large and cumbersome to move around but as I said it depends on your budget. I am assuming you are using a stock cooler?? - generally regarded as not that efficient at all for anything but low level use of your machine.
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