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Windows 7: Enabling dump files

15 Apr 2010   #1
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 
Enabling dump files

Good people,
Have I missed it or do we not have a short explanation/tutorial on enabling a system to create a dump files? Here I am not talking about causing one but simply the necessary settings in sysdm.cpl and the the necessary autostart of the windows error reporting service.

What I was looking for was a simple list for those who say they do not have any files in \windows\minidump.

True, we can relist the info every time this comes up but perhaps an easier approach would be a link to either a post or tutorial dedicated to this topic and this topic alone.


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15 Apr 2010   #2
derekimo

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

Here's This Karl, I know it's not a tutorial but handy and helpful.

SF Diagnostic Tool
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15 Apr 2010   #3
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Yes, it's an exellent tool for collecting info and I'd like to see it recommended more frequently since it provides a wealth of info.
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15 Apr 2010   #4
Capt.Jack Sparrow

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64-bit | Windows 8 Pro - 64-bit
 
 

Here you go !!
  1. Click Start, point to Settings, and then click Control Panel.
  2. Double-click System.
  3. Click the Advanced tab, and then click Settings under Startup and Recovery.
  4. In the Write debugging information list, click Small memory dump (64k).

    To change the folder location for the small memory dump files, type a new path in the Dump File box (or in the Small dump directory box, depending on your version of Windows).
Source: How to read the small memory dump files that Windows creates for debugging

Hope this helps,
Captain
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15 Apr 2010   #5
derekimo

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by karlsnooks View Post
Yes, it's an exellent tool for collecting info and I'd like to see it recommended more frequently since it provides a wealth of info.
I agree, an excellent tool.
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15 Apr 2010   #6
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Capt.Jack Sparrow View Post
Here you go !!
  1. Click Start, point to Settings, and then click Control Panel.
  2. Double-click System.
  3. Click the Advanced tab, and then click Settings under Startup and Recovery.
  4. In the Write debugging information list, click Small memory dump (64k).

    To change the folder location for the small memory dump files, type a new path in the Dump File box (or in the Small dump directory box, depending on your version of Windows).
Source: How to read the small memory dump files that Windows creates for debugging

Hope this helps,
Captain
That's one part of the picture. There are other things to be observed. For most of us there is no problem, but although I've not test it, supposedly if you have no paging file. You also must have not have turned off Windows Error Reporting. This one you correct by starting the service and changing the setting to Automatic starting. Many ways to gt there--I use SERVICES.MSC.

Now to another strange point-On my system, win7 Ultimate, 32 bit, the minidump size is given as 128K bytes as opposed to 64k bytes. Perhaps the 64k was true for Vista but I don't know.
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16 Apr 2010   #7
jcgriff2

Windows 7 - Vista
 
 

Excellent topic.

There are certain contitions (besides that of the "Perfect Storm") that must be in place for a memory dump to be produced when your system BSOD's, hardware failure notwithstanding.

Please see --> BSOD Kernel Dump Analysis - jcgriff2

Which contains this link --> NO MEMORY DUMP FILES BEING PRODUCED UPON BSOD?

Which says -
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jcgriff2

CHECKLIST

For dumps to be produced. . .

- Page file must be on OS drive
- Page file base allocation size must be > than installed physical RAM
- Windows Error Reporting (WER) system service should be set to MANUAL
- Set page file to system managed, OS drive

Set System Crash/ Recovery Settings to "Kernel Memory Dump" - this will produce. . .
--> a Full Kernel Memory Dump - c:\windows\memory.dmp
--> a Mini Kernel dump c:\windows\minidump

The Full Kernel is overwritten each BSOD; a new mini kernel dump is created w/ different name for each BSOD

To check your system's "Recoveros" (Recovery) and Page File settings via Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI), download the zip file, extract the EXE file to Desktop. RIGHT-click on EXE icon, select "Run as Administrator".

Zip File w/ EXE --> WMI - "Recoveros" and Page File Settings

IE 8 screen will open with the results.

For additional information, please see Microsoft kb307973, "How to configure system failure and recovery options in Windows".


Regards. . .

jcgriff2
I have attached the actual WMI EXE file that I wrote to this post for those who would like to see the output.

WMI EXE File --> WMIC_Recoveros_Pagefile_04-2010_jcgriff2_html.exe

These are simply basic items to check before digging deeper, IMHO.

Kind Regards. . .

John

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16 Apr 2010   #8
ickymay

win7 ultimate / virtual box
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jcgriff2 View Post
Excellent topic.

There are certain contitions (besides that of the "Perfect Storm") that must be in place for a memory dump to be produced when your system BSOD's, hardware failure notwithstanding.

Please see --> BSOD Kernel Dump Analysis - jcgriff2

Which contains this link --> NO MEMORY DUMP FILES BEING PRODUCED UPON BSOD?

Which says -
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jcgriff2

CHECKLIST

For dumps to be produced. . .

- Page file must be on OS drive
- Page file base allocation size must be > than installed physical RAM
- Windows Error Reporting (WER) system service should be set to MANUAL
- Set page file to system managed, OS drive

Set System Crash/ Recovery Settings to "Kernel Memory Dump" - this will produce. . .
--> a Full Kernel Memory Dump - c:\windows\memory.dmp
--> a Mini Kernel dump c:\windows\minidump

The Full Kernel is overwritten each BSOD; a new mini kernel dump is created w/ different name for each BSOD

To check your system's "Recoveros" (Recovery) and Page File settings via Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI), download the zip file, extract the EXE file to Desktop. RIGHT-click on EXE icon, select "Run as Administrator".

Zip File w/ EXE --> WMI - "Recoveros" and Page File Settings

IE 8 screen will open with the results.

For additional information, please see Microsoft kb307973, "How to configure system failure and recovery options in Windows".


Regards. . .

jcgriff2
I have attached the actual WMI EXE file that I wrote to this post for those who would like to see the output.

WMI EXE File --> WMIC_Recoveros_Pagefile_04-2010_jcgriff2_html.exe

These are simply basic items to check before digging deeper, IMHO.

Kind Regards. . .

John

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all the bases covered as ever meester griff
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16 Apr 2010   #9
Capt.Jack Sparrow

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64-bit | Windows 8 Pro - 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jcgriff2 View Post
Excellent topic.

There are certain contitions (besides that of the "Perfect Storm") that must be in place for a memory dump to be produced when your system BSOD's, hardware failure notwithstanding.

Please see --> BSOD Kernel Dump Analysis - jcgriff2

Which contains this link --> NO MEMORY DUMP FILES BEING PRODUCED UPON BSOD?

Which says -
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jcgriff2

CHECKLIST

For dumps to be produced. . .

- Page file must be on OS drive
- Page file base allocation size must be > than installed physical RAM
- Windows Error Reporting (WER) system service should be set to MANUAL
- Set page file to system managed, OS drive

Set System Crash/ Recovery Settings to "Kernel Memory Dump" - this will produce. . .
--> a Full Kernel Memory Dump - c:\windows\memory.dmp
--> a Mini Kernel dump c:\windows\minidump

The Full Kernel is overwritten each BSOD; a new mini kernel dump is created w/ different name for each BSOD

To check your system's "Recoveros" (Recovery) and Page File settings via Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI), download the zip file, extract the EXE file to Desktop. RIGHT-click on EXE icon, select "Run as Administrator".

Zip File w/ EXE --> WMI - "Recoveros" and Page File Settings

IE 8 screen will open with the results.

For additional information, please see Microsoft kb307973, "How to configure system failure and recovery options in Windows".


Regards. . .

jcgriff2
I have attached the actual WMI EXE file that I wrote to this post for those who would like to see the output.

WMI EXE File --> WMIC_Recoveros_Pagefile_04-2010_jcgriff2_html.exe

These are simply basic items to check before digging deeper, IMHO.

Kind Regards. . .

John

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Great Post J.C. !!
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16 Apr 2010   #10
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jcgriff2 View Post
Excellent topic.

There are certain contitions (besides that of the "Perfect Storm") that must be in place for a memory dump to be produced when your system BSOD's, hardware failure notwithstanding.

Please see --> BSOD Kernel Dump Analysis - jcgriff2

Which contains this link --> NO MEMORY DUMP FILES BEING PRODUCED UPON BSOD?

Which says -
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jcgriff2

CHECKLIST

For dumps to be produced. . .

- Page file must be on OS drive
- Page file base allocation size must be > than installed physical RAM
- Windows Error Reporting (WER) system service should be set to MANUAL
- Set page file to system managed, OS drive

Set System Crash/ Recovery Settings to "Kernel Memory Dump" - this will produce. . .
--> a Full Kernel Memory Dump - c:\windows\memory.dmp
--> a Mini Kernel dump c:\windows\minidump

The Full Kernel is overwritten each BSOD; a new mini kernel dump is created w/ different name for each BSOD

To check your system's "Recoveros" (Recovery) and Page File settings via Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI), download the zip file, extract the EXE file to Desktop. RIGHT-click on EXE icon, select "Run as Administrator".

Zip File w/ EXE --> WMI - "Recoveros" and Page File Settings

IE 8 screen will open with the results.

For additional information, please see Microsoft kb307973, "How to configure system failure and recovery options in Windows".


Regards. . .

jcgriff2
I have attached the actual WMI EXE file that I wrote to this post for those who would like to see the output.

WMI EXE File --> WMIC_Recoveros_Pagefile_04-2010_jcgriff2_html.exe

These are simply basic items to check before digging deeper, IMHO.

Kind Regards. . .

John

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John,
Many thanks. Been rather busy last two days and haven't had a chance to digest and utilize yet. Oh, yes, my latest attempts at trying to force a dump on my keyboard without a scroll lock using the registry edit to remap keyboard failed. Could remap to a shift key just fine but remap to scroll-lock produced nada. Must go back and once again check over my registry edit to enable the use of rt-ctls with 2 x scroll-lock to force bsod.

am still working on that one also.

Again, many thanks,
karl
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