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07-13-2009
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If your mobo is only ATA - IDE, there are adapters that will modify the FASTER SATA HDDs, so they will work on the ATA mobos. ATA if you add a P=PATA which almost all mobos are, the diff is SATA will only take 1 S ATA HDD per connection. where PATA will take 2 ATA HDDs per.
I have been beta testing the old ATA addon PCI Card, which will if PATA HDDs add 4, but as SATA will add only 2 HDDs.
The Card I use is the older Promise ATA(Windows Vista Promise Ultra100 (tm) IDE Controller)( Driver= 2.1.0.3) quite old but still works very well with Win 7 7264. This allows 2 fast SATA HDDs. So even the old PATA HDD mobos only will accept the new faster SATA HDD,s with NO Problems.
I do hope this helps. | My System Specs | | |
07-13-2009
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#82 | | Vista Home Premium 64-bit SP2 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Gbsnplr I have found this discussion very interesting but must admitt to not understanding 1/3rd of it. Bottom line for me is how do I find faster HDs? I am not sure I am interested in going with SCSI because I would have to change MoBo's.
Thanks for the help. What do you mean by a Faster HDD? If you mean in RPM then upgrade to a faster RPM like a 7200 or a 10000. If you mean data transfer...as of now SATA is kind of the standard to work with(300 Mb/s). If you are using IDE(100Mb/s) then you are going to be slower in data tranfer speeds. The best you can test now would a Solid State Drive. They are really good but have a setback of if you write to it too many times you can destroy it. They are still connected via SATA so the gain of a faster internal drive given same tranfer speeds if your choice.
If you dont have a SATA connector for your MOBO and you are still using IDE. The only thing you can do is change your motherboard. Using an in-line converter wont help your data speeds...you would still run at 100Mb/s approx. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP DV7-1129wm Laptop OS Vista Home Premium 64-bit SP2 CPU AMD TurionX2 64 @ 2.1GHz Memory 4GB DDR2 400MHz Graphics Card 256 MB Dedicated ATI Radeon HD 3200 Sound Card IDT High Definition Audio/HDMI Monitor(s) Displays 17" Laptop Screen Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Full Keyboard with Full NumPad Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3000 / Touchpad Hard Drives 250GB SATA Hitachi Internet Speed Comact 12-20 Mbps Other Info Used Primarily for CAD Design/Engineering |
07-13-2009
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Blackhawk, your right also. but since we have no specs to what he has, both are DUH simply guessing at what we think is the best for him.
Sure would be nice to have the SPECs of CPU, mobo, memory, etc etc. then we could really help. Some time i suggest ppl get the faster HDDs not because they will actually make thing faster, they are simply cheaper and work better, and will work with the new mobs better.
Gads old small IDE Hdds cost more the bigger faster Satas. so the Adapter Kits are a nice method to do.
maybe he will SPEC up so we can assist better. Remeber he said: Quote: : Originally Posted by Gbsnplr I have found this discussion very interesting but must admitt to not understanding 1/3rd of it. Bottom line for me is how do I find faster HDs? | My System Specs | | |
07-13-2009
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#84 | | Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04 |
Buy one of these SSD's...
Patriot Torqx 128GB SSD
OCZ Vertex 120GB v.1.1
or one of the Intel SSD's, but they are super expensive
Be careful buying an SSD, there were plenty of issues with most of the original SSD's due to the way that it was erasing data (The smallest amount of data that could be deleted at once is a page or 512 KB), whereas it could write spots as small as 4KB. So when it wanted to overwrite an 4KB spot it would have to move the whole page into cache, replace the spot it wanted to write to and then erase the page and move the cached page back into memory. It is all interesting and what not, read this article if you want to know more about it... AnandTech: The SSD Anthology: Understanding SSDs and New Drives from OCZ | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number fakeasdf (c) OS Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04 CPU 2 x C2D E8600@3.33 Ghz, C2D T8300@2.4 ghz, P4 @ 3.0 ghz, Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3P LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Dynamic Energy S Memory 2x8 GB Corsair, 4GB Kingston, 2GB GSkill Graphics Card ATI Radeon 4670 1 GB DDR3, 2600 Pro, 2400 Pro, Intel 965 Sound Card I don't care... Connected using Optical on Media Center Monitor(s) Displays Panasonic Viera 50" Plasma, 2x 19" Screen Resolution 1080P, 1280x1024's Case Antec P182 Gun Metal Black Hard Drives 4 Terabytes Internet Speed 20 Mbit U/D |
07-13-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Muad Dib I am so glad you took the time to answer the questions though, in truth, starting with the first post in this thread they were already answered.
I would simply add, "Why put a 2 barrel carburetor on a 454 big block?"
But in full disclosure I was not a proponent of Vista 64 bit for the "average" home user. Too many driver issues at the time of release.... I want a quad carb!!! Where is my quad carb!!!! I saw that and had to say something, worked with a guy who had a quad carb on his pickup, beastly thing. Either way why the hell are you using a 454 for every day use, isn't that overkill? lol | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7, Linux CPU AMD Phemon II x2 3@3750 Motherboard ASRock M3A770DE Memory 1G Crucial 1666 Graphics Card 8800GT OC (custom OC) Sound Card Sound Blaster Live! (never changes!) Monitor(s) Displays Vivitron 22" Screen Resolution 1600x1200 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech M-BZ15A Laser PSU 450w Case Unknown Cooling Custom Air cooled Hard Drives Western Digital 120G/160G SATA
Maxtor 80G IDE Internet Speed Cable 10mbit |
07-13-2009
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#86 | | XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail |

Quote: Originally Posted by mushroomboy I want a quad carb!!! Where is my quad carb!!!! I saw that and had to say something, worked with a guy who had a quad carb on his pickup, beastly thing. Either way why the hell are you using a 454 for every day use, isn't that overkill? lol
'Cuz I'm an 'Merican, that's why! You'll take ma 4-barrel street-stomper from me when you prys it frum ma cold dead hands! | My System Specs | | OS XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail |
07-13-2009
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I have SATA now. And thanks for all the input. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 x64 CPU i7 950 Motherboard Gigabyte X58A-UD3R Memory 6 gig Graphics Card ATI 6870 Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Gateway 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 |
08-02-2009
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#88 | | Windows 7 ultimate 7600 RTM |
My laptop is x64 compatible but I just didn't see the benefits.
I put x64 Ultimate on but went back to x86 because there's less compatibly and I just understand why is was better.
Ben. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP G600 OS Windows 7 ultimate 7600 RTM CPU AMD Athlon X64 Dual Core 1.7Ghz Memory 2GB DDR2 Graphics Card 6100 Nvida Gforce Monitor(s) Displays 15.4 Case Laptop Hard Drives 160GB SATA II |
08-02-2009
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#89 | | Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Ben1 My laptop is x64 compatible but I just didn't see the benefits.
I put x64 Ultimate on but went back to x86 because there's less compatibly and I just understand why is was better.
Ben. I assume you mean less compatibility issues. Was there something in particular that didn't work in x64, or did you just feel like/think there was less compatibility? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number fakeasdf (c) OS Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04 CPU 2 x C2D E8600@3.33 Ghz, C2D T8300@2.4 ghz, P4 @ 3.0 ghz, Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3P LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Dynamic Energy S Memory 2x8 GB Corsair, 4GB Kingston, 2GB GSkill Graphics Card ATI Radeon 4670 1 GB DDR3, 2600 Pro, 2400 Pro, Intel 965 Sound Card I don't care... Connected using Optical on Media Center Monitor(s) Displays Panasonic Viera 50" Plasma, 2x 19" Screen Resolution 1080P, 1280x1024's Case Antec P182 Gun Metal Black Hard Drives 4 Terabytes Internet Speed 20 Mbit U/D |
08-02-2009
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I'm running Windows 7 x64, and I'm very happy with it. I, on the other hand, have a friend with Core i7, 3Gb ram, 2x ATI 4870 in crossfire, and he won't run x64, because he can't get Windows Mail to work on x64. I have showed him the guide in this forum, and he tried a hole night, but without succes.
I don't know Windows mail myself, but what is the difference between Windows Mail (Vista) and Windows Live mail (as I use in Windows 7)?
When RC was new, I brought a Intel X25-M SSD to use as system disk, and just like the OP, I saw that x64 was slower to install than x86, but faster in all other stuff, especially on boot after Office 2007, Virus (Kaspersky 2009 IS), games, Nero and Paint shop pro was installed. Now I'm running 7264, x64 (have not tried x86 since RC), and I'm very happy with it. But I got some concern about rtm, as people are writing about more and more crashes in x64 RTM.
So when released, witch will be most STABLE, x86 or x64? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel E6850 3,0 running 3,6 Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte DS4 P35 Memory 2x2 and Gb Corsair PC6400 CAS5 - 4GB total Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce 260GTX Sound Card Creative X-Fi Fata1ty Gamer Extreme Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 2493hm Screen Resolution 1920*1200 Keyboard Logitech G15 (blue backlight) Mouse Logitech G5 laser PSU Zahlman 850HP Case Shg Cooling Evo 120 Hard Drives Intel X25-M SSD for system
2x 1Tb Samsung F1 as seperate discs Internet Speed 25/25 mbit Other Info 1 Samsung SATA dvd-burner
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