Snouts in the Trough

jimbo45 · May 18, 2009

Hi all
I'm not a UK Voter so I'm not trying to make Political capital on a Technical Forum -- but as an external observer I have to be fairly "amused" in how even in the UK which claims to have "The Mother of Parliaments" some members of that "Honorouble Institution" just "forgot" when their mortgages were paid up and were still collecting "tax reliefs".

Iceland whiilst having a fairly generous Social Security system would still come down really hard on people who for example apply for unemployment benefit and "forget to tell the authorities" if they start working again.

Maybe Politicians from Zimbabwe aren't so bad -- at least if there IS any of this sort of stuff there's no surprise and nobody pretends otherwise.

(Mods - please delete if inappropriate -- I'm not actually trying to make a political point here in favour of any party -- just that I'm surprised that when "Freedom of Information" is opened up how even supposed "squeaky clean " people misuse a system.)

Thank goodness for the Freedom of Information Act -- now operative in the whole of the EU but originated in the US.

Cheers
jimbo

z3r010 · May 18, 2009

I'm going to allow this as it couldn't turn into an argument as we all hate the robbing parasites.

Dwarf · May 18, 2009

We've all seen, in recent days, a number of MPs apologising profusely about erroneously claiming expenses to which they weren't entitled. The only thing that any of them are sorry about is the fact that this has come to light, thanks to the Freedom of Information Act and a well-known broadsheet newspaper. They also claimed that they were acting within the rules, but who wrote the rules (and amended them when and where necessary)? They did.

z3r010 · May 18, 2009

Dwarf · May 18, 2009

Here are some more. Enjoy.

Captain Zero · May 18, 2009

Maybe I'm not up on my U.K. politics but we, in the U.S., have our share of corrupt officials. Take the last 8 years, as an example. The scandalous nature and behavior of policy makers will never be fully told. As for what's happening in Europe (Iceland, Denmark and even Sweden) from what I understand, the social safety nets are being clogged with the despondent and the indigenous people are paying the bill - a significant burden, indeed.

Things will never change. What I will always struggle with is how we are supposed to make societies work; We're a collection of self-interests and we're, somehow, supposed to get along.

Joan Archer · May 18, 2009

z3r010 said:
I'm going to allow this as it couldn't turn into an argument as we all hate the robbing parasites.

You got that right

swarfega · May 18, 2009

As I keep saying, they dont need a second home, just a nice appartment in London. That should suffice. None of this claiming for chandaliers and swimming pools which arent even necessary for them to do their job.

z3r010 · May 19, 2009

The tax payer has just shelled out for an Olympic village that nobody else would fund, surely this would be ideal MP housing.

TBH I've found this very entertaining, everyday we get the chance to watch one of the slimy maggots squirm trying to defend their claims, although it is beginning to drag a little and we could do with a big climax, as a final scene I would love for Prince Charles to burst into Parliament then grab the mace and beat Gorbals Mick to death with it before declaring "Me mam sent me to tell you your all fired"

Captain Zero · May 19, 2009

Prince Charles doesn't have the (ahem) sack for that. King George, on the other hand, that's who is needed for a situation like this.

skunksmash · May 19, 2009

you can see parliament being dismantled now at a rate of knots.....

, this MP allowance system is no new thing its been happening for years.... its been leaked at this time to further undermine & destroy they're credibility

i'd like to think its a good thing, but you all know what i thinks gonna happen....

SK

z3r010 · May 19, 2009

We all know its been going on for years, its just great we now have a chance to give them greif about it.

Cromwell's statement to Paliament 20th April 1653 could just as well have been given to the current lot 350 years later.

It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice; ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government; ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.

Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse; gold is your God; which of you have not barter'd your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?

Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil'd this sacred place, and turn'd the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress'd, are yourselves become the greatest grievance.

Your country therefore calls upon me to cleanse this Augean stable, by putting a final period to your iniquitous proceedings in this House; and which by God's help, and the strength he has given me, I am now come to do; I command ye therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place; go, get you out!

Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. In the name of God, go!

Captain Zero · May 19, 2009

Nothing changes except the names of the guilty.

Voodoo · May 19, 2009

Hi

I have watched this develop over the past weeks with a growing sense of dislike for the lot of them. We all knew it was going on, we just didn't know how much. Then the claims just got dumber and dumber, but who were so dumb as to sign them off as approved? Maybe they should go first, right after a public apology and a return of their salary as they clearly haven't a clue! The people who claimed for mortgages already paid off, well I hope they get charged when the police are finished, but i doubt it. The whole thing beggars belief!

Now I hear that we should have a General Election. You have to be kidding! Why would you do this without sorting all this out? To hide it away maybe? Stop the reform process of MP's allowances maybe? They all don't want the gravy train to stop. Yes maybe we do need a general election but lets make it after the reforms ( if they happen ), the sackings and the charging!

The very fact that someone wants to be an MP, should immediately bar them from being one. (Not the Nine O'clock News book Not the General Election )

Rant off!

Greig

Dwarf · May 19, 2009

swarfega said:
As I keep saying, they dont need a second home, just a nice appartment in London. That should suffice. None of this claiming for chandaliers and swimming pools which arent even necessary for them to do their job.

They don't need a swimming pool. They've already got one, right outside the place where they (allegedly) work. It's called the River Thames. With a bit of luck, they'll dive in and be carried away.

Voodoo · May 19, 2009

Dwarf said:
.... With a bit of luck, they'll dive in and be carried away.

Maybe they need a shove! :sarc:

jimbo45 · May 20, 2009

Hi all

It's not only the UK -- everywhere the picture is the same - except in some countries people aren't surprised at the general behaviour of them all.

Just like this

Cheers
jimbo

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