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10 Jun 2009
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New Computer Hello guys, Im planing to buy a new desktop computer after summer. And I want want to ask you which are good and which are bad comparing to performance/price. I found dell XPS 435, it would be great for me. Btw I will use this computer for gaming/graphic things. So if anyone have any ideas/know where to find high-end pc, place them here. Or its better to build a pc for myself? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer 7720G OS Windows 7 CPU 2.0 GHz Intel @ Core 2 Duo Processor T5720 Memory 3GB DDR2 Graphics Card Geforce 9300M Monitor(s) Displays 17" WXGA+ Acer CrystalBrite LCD Hard Drives 250GB HDD |
11 Jun 2009
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I would recommend building your own actually. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 x64 Pro CPU Intel 990X Motherboard Asus P6T Deluxe V2 Memory CORSAIR XMS3 6GB SDRAM DDR3 1600 (7-7-7-20) Graphics Card 2 x BFG 285 GTX OCXs in SLI Sound Card X-fi Elite Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP LP 3065 Screen Resolution 2560 x 1600 Keyboard Saitek Eclipse II Mouse Logitech MX Revolution PSU PC Power & Cooling 750W Case CM Stacker 832 Cooling Stock cooler Hard Drives 2 x 150 gb Velociraptors RAID 0 |
11 Jun 2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit, Mac OS Snow Leopard 10.6 Mt Barker, Western Australia |
Its cheaper to build it yourself, But It dosent come with any support outside the warranties. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit, Mac OS Snow Leopard 10.6 CPU P4 2.4ghz @ 2.56Ghz Memory 1gb DDR Graphics Card 7600GT AGP 4X Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 19LG Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech Media Keyboard PSU 430W Thermaltake Hard Drives 120GB WD Caviar
80 Seagate Barracuda Internet Speed 1.5MB |
11 Jun 2009
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#4 | | Win7 Ultimate, x64 Newport News, VA |
I would second both the above posts. Doing the research for the parts, figuring out which video card will provide you with the performance you would like to see in your games, the processor that will provide you with the grunt you need/want to do the various things you want to do (graphics - more grunt is better  ) - that can be more the 1/2 the fun of a new computer.
But, like was mentioned above, going this route you have to provide your own tech support. You can, sometimes, get tech support from the MBO and/or video card manufacturers, but sometimes not.
I've probably built 7 or 8 machines over the course of the last 10 years and so far I've only had one problem. In the most recent build, the the CPU socket on the MBO was damaged and I had to RMA it back to NewEgg.com (a painless process). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Cobbled together :) OS Win7 Ultimate, x64 CPU i7 920, currently NOT OC Motherboard Asrock X58 Deluxe Memory OCZ Platinum 12GB (6 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Graphics Card nvidia geforce 7600 gt Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 204t (dual monitors) Screen Resolution 1600 x 1200 PSU 750w Cooling Air, 4 120mm Hard Drives WDC WD2000JS-00MHB0 ATA
WDC WD5000AAKS-65YGA0 ATA |
11 Jun 2009
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Milton Keynes, United Kingdom |
+1, 2 & 3 for the above comments.
A custome build is 1 way to guarantee that you've got the machine you want | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq Desktop OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Sempron Dual Core Memory 3GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 Screen Resolution 1024x768 Hard Drives 150GB Sata |
11 Jun 2009
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#6 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |

Quote: Originally Posted by FullyLoadedMan Its cheaper to build it yourself, But It dosent come with any support outside the warranties. Actually I disagree -- It's usually NOT cheaper to build it yourself - you can't compare huge manufacturing volumes with a 1-off build.
Cheap manufacture in Taiwan and elsewhere means you can pick up a reasonable rig for a very cheap price these days.
However if you do "Roll your own" you'll get a really good purpose built rig which should be just fine for what you need to do.
Don't make the big mistake of thinking that it's actually cheaper however.
(Note if you ALREADY have parts that you can re-use such as memory, power supply, monitor, case etc. then it *can* be cheaper since you don't have to source every component from scratch).
BTW I'm NOT against building your own -- on the contrary - I'm all in favour but it's NOT cheaper.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
11 Jun 2009
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well....lets put that assumption to the test shall we jimbo
here is a gaming rig i googled from one of the largest UK ''E-tailors''
now lets match the spec of this tower ourselves, using the same E-tailor for the separate components.... i7 920.......£225 x58 board......£150 6gb Tri channel DDR3.......£77 GTX260.....£120 Antec 900 gaming case........£82 2x 500gb HDD's........£84 DVDRW.......£16 KEYBOARD & MOUSE.....£73 (personally i'd never spend that amount on this product)
total......£827
retail.....£1091
as you can see im able to save myself quite a bit by building this rig myself  even more could be saved by loosing that ''mouse & keyboard'', all components also have 1 year RTB on them....(which is the same as the actual warranty you get from the retail tower)...
building it yourself is the logical option.....  SK | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number myself OS SEVEN x64 CPU Q9450 @ 3.6GHZ 1.34v Motherboard ASUS P5K PREMIUM P35 Memory 8GB 1066 buffalo firestix @ 1152mhz CL5 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 5970 + GTX260 (physX) Sound Card Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG 20'' & SAMSUNG 23'' (dual screens) Screen Resolution 2048x1152 & 1680x1050 Keyboard LOGITECH E110 Mouse logitech NX5 PSU XCILIO 850w (78A) Case CM590 1x 120x38mm & 2x92x38mm / 4x 120x25mm Cooling AC7 PRO @ 92x38mm blower, Lamptron military bus bay controll Hard Drives 1x seagate 160gb IDE & 1x seagate 160gb SATA Internet Speed 2MB Other Info its a continual ''work in progress''.... |
11 Jun 2009
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Cheers for that skunksmash. I have seen some cases where the DIY builds do get a bit pricier especially if it is the first computer you are building since you dont have any existing parts that you can scavenge from. But usually it works out best if you do your own build first.
I love doing builds but the art of cable management to get maximized airflow through the system eludes me. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 x64 Pro CPU Intel 990X Motherboard Asus P6T Deluxe V2 Memory CORSAIR XMS3 6GB SDRAM DDR3 1600 (7-7-7-20) Graphics Card 2 x BFG 285 GTX OCXs in SLI Sound Card X-fi Elite Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP LP 3065 Screen Resolution 2560 x 1600 Keyboard Saitek Eclipse II Mouse Logitech MX Revolution PSU PC Power & Cooling 750W Case CM Stacker 832 Cooling Stock cooler Hard Drives 2 x 150 gb Velociraptors RAID 0 |
11 Jun 2009
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#9 | | Win7 Ultimate, x64 Newport News, VA |
On reflection (and re-reading what I wrote) I have to agree - it's not cheaper. But, you can get a better bang/buck ratio by building your own.
And, like jimbo says, once you go down that path you can sometimes pull parts from your old machine to build the new machine. My current machine (i7 920, 6GB, ....) only cost me about $700 to piece together because I had all I needed except the X58 MBO, the i7, and the memory. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Cobbled together :) OS Win7 Ultimate, x64 CPU i7 920, currently NOT OC Motherboard Asrock X58 Deluxe Memory OCZ Platinum 12GB (6 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Graphics Card nvidia geforce 7600 gt Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 204t (dual monitors) Screen Resolution 1600 x 1200 PSU 750w Cooling Air, 4 120mm Hard Drives WDC WD2000JS-00MHB0 ATA
WDC WD5000AAKS-65YGA0 ATA |
12 Jun 2009
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As somebody who has built most of his desktops, I'd say it's not really worth it unless you have a lot of free time and are trying to save every dollar possible.
It's not too hard to clobber a pc together, but to really make a solid build, you need to know a lot of details such as PSU rails, effective case cooling, RAID setup (if applicable). And you always run that chance that some piece of hardware you get has a crummy driver or just so happens to act wonky with another. You'll occasionally run into problems where a new build just simply won't boot and install an OS and it might take you all day screwing with it. (I had a problem where Vista simply hung during install and apparently it was some obscure conflict the motherboard was throwing up. This is despite the motherboard coming with a Vista certified emblem)
But if you do have loads of free time, not much cash, and want a very specific build, then go for it. It's just not always as pain-free as it's made out to be. | My System Specs | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:38 AM. | |