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Windows 7: How Much is Too Much?

23 Jun 2009   #1

Vista / 7 RC 7100/Virtual XP
How Much is Too Much?

I 've gotten kinda carried away with my tweaking and adding on to my PC...just noticed I have 5 OSes ( 2 are Virtual) on my computer! My default OS is Vista ( came installed on my PC) and also have my HDD partitioned with Vista, Windows 7 RC 7100(on which I also have WinXP Pro SP3 installed with Windows Virtual PC), Build 7260, and I also D/L'ed SunxVM VirtualBox on which I installed Win XP Pro( I know I already have it but the Windows Virtual PC program is limited to Win 7 so if I wanted to use it I would have to restart my PC to exit Vista and boot win7RC up...I just had a CRAZY thought----I wonder if you can partition a partition????

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25 Jun 2009   #2

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32 bit/Windows 8.1 64bit

Can't you do an Extended Partition from a Logical one ?
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01 Jul 2009   #3

Vista / 7 RC 7100/Virtual XP

Tried to extend into 7260, but for some reason it won't let you know how?
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01 Jul 2009   #4

Windows 7

Just curious, why do you have so many OSs? Unless you were doing tech support or something similar, it seems like you'd use more time mucking around with the OS than actually using the computer as a tool.
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01 Jul 2009   #5

Win 7

Windows Virtual PC is not limited to win 7.
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01 Jul 2009   #6

Vista / 7 RC 7100/Virtual XP

I've gotten bored with surfing the Web, watching movies, chats and all that other stuff, so I like to tinker with the PC itself; tweaking and adjusting settings, trying out different OSes, installing new programs and software, and while I'm doing these things, I'm learning to troubleshoot problems that pop up and fixing them...Nothing wrong with that, is there?? For someone who's never taken a computer class I've learned a lot since I started using a PC regularly about Jan 2007 and I started with a hand-me down HP with a beat-up monitor running Win95 and using Juno dial-up. I'm not working at the moment so I have lots of free time on my I have a new(ish) HP bought in June '07 with Vista pre-installed and just sitting here and messin around , reading and trying things out to see how they work. Maybe I could use what I learned to update my job skills and get a BETTER job.....Sorry if I got long-winded but I guess I wanted to explain why I do what I do.....
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02 Jul 2009   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate RC1 / XP Black 2009

Also with the right software you can have virtual drives that hold a Hard Drive letter when the Comp is could go right to the letter Z !
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02 Jul 2009   #8


@ OP,
"I wonder if you can partition a partition???"
Yes, you can create as many partitions as there are letters in the alphabet, subtracting for any floppy, cd/dvd drives, utility and/or recovery partitions you might have, as well as older mem stick/card readers that assign drive letters to them. There might be a few more exceptions, but I doubt you'll ever reach the end of the alphabet to worry if you have enough letters.

Heres the rub, For more than 3 partitions, you have to create an extended partition. Then from within the extended partition you create logical partitions. You currently have an extended partition, but unfortunately, its only 20 gigs. For you to make more partitions, you would have to delete both windows 7100 & 7260 and then the current extended. With the newly freed 110 gigs, you create an extended partition with all that space, then create logical drives from within the extended. You can create as many as you want with the space you have up to the limit discussed, but doubt you would have to worry about that with 110 gig's.

Since Vista, (as you can see cause you have an OS installed on a Logical partition), its possible to install OS's from Vista and Newer on Logical Drives. With XP and older legacy OS's, they would have to be installed only on primary partitions to which on windows is limited to 3. The forth partition would be the extended, and logical partitions are all that can be created from within an extended partition. You cannot create a primary partition from within an extended partition. Also, You need at least One Primary partition for the boot manager.

Should you decide on redoing your hard drive, I recommend the following:

1. KEEP YOUR HP RECOVERY PARTITION (1st thing to do- If your PC didn't come with recovery disc's, you should be able to create them and suggest you do so. Within your Original OS, should be a program from HP to create them).

2. Your first partition would be a Primary one sized appropriately for how you intend on using it. If your installing Vista and a few programs, but don't really intend on using it too much, then keep it reasonably small. With Vista, somewhere around 24 gig's would be about as small as I would go. Increase if you have a lot of programs to install. Take a look at what you have now, see what you would keep and size appropriately leaving a little "head room" I'd say you want to try and keep about 25% of the partition empty. For disk defrag to run, it needs a minimum of 15% free. But keep in mind you can always reduce the size of the page file, system restore, and the recycle bin to free up space.

3. A> You could create a second primary partition, just to have another primary partition in case its needed in the future, about 24 gigs. You could always use it as storage, untill needed for an OS.
3. B> Create an Extended partition with all remaining space.

4. Create as many Logical partitions as you want, sizing them appropriately for how you intend on using them. (Install Vista and Newer OS's here)

Hope this helps, Oh & btw, theres no such thing as "too much"
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02 Jul 2009   #9

Windows 7 Ultimate RC1 / XP Black 2009

theres no such thing as "too much"
Ooooooo i agree, He He
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02 Jul 2009   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32 bit/Windows 8.1 64bit

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Davy7RC View Post
Tried to extend into 7260, but for some reason it won't let you know how?
Sorry I can't help you there as I don't know enough but I see that OEM has given you a pretty good explanation which hopefully will give you plenty to play with

Good luck with the experiments you are doing you'll probably learn a lot more from being hands on, hope it brings you better prospects in the job front
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