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Windows 7: I Am Tyin' To Chill

13 Feb 2011   #11
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Punkster View Post
Actually, if you multiply 101 by 1024, it'll give you 103424, if you divide that by 4, that's 25856

The SSD is aligned
Hmm, I am afraid I do not get it. The reserved partition is most likely the first partition on the SSD. So how does this multiplication apply?
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13 Feb 2011   #12
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
Good Math

Ok Punkster then they are both aligned. One more reading on size -- Bios say 115G

I used the Tute to alingn the disk and then layed down a saved image. I didn't improve anything. This thread got out of hand for chill out. When I post back I better move it to hardware.
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13 Feb 2011   #13
Punkster

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit)
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Punkster View Post
Actually, if you multiply 101 by 1024, it'll give you 103424, if you divide that by 4, that's 25856

The SSD is aligned
Hmm, I am afraid I do not get it. The reserved partition is most likely the first partition on the SSD. So how does this multiplication apply?
The first partition (System Reserved) has 1024 KB of offset, right?

The C: partition has 101MB of offset, you can't divide MB by KB, it's like dividing Kilograms by Grams.. so you have to take those MB into KB, you multiply 101MB by 1024KB so they can be in the same unit

The result is 103424KB, when you divide 103424KB by 4, it's 25856KB, since there are no decimals in that number, it means the number it's divisible by 4, hence, the SSD is aligned
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13 Feb 2011   #14
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Punkster View Post
Actually, if you multiply 101 by 1024, it'll give you 103424, if you divide that by 4, that's 25856

The SSD is aligned
Hmm, I am afraid I do not get it. The reserved partition is most likely the first partition on the SSD. So how does this multiplication apply?
The first partition (System Reserved) has 1024 KB of offset, right?

The C: partition has 101MB of offset, you can't divide MB by KB, it's like dividing Kilograms by Grams.. so you have to take those MB into KB, you multiply 101MB by 1024KB so they can be in the same unit

The result is 103424KB, when you divide 103424KB by 4, it's 25856KB, since there are no decimals in that number, it means the number it's divisible by 4, hence, the SSD is aligned
I follow your logic in general - except that he said that the System Reserved has an offset of 101, not 1024. Am I missing something?

Quote:
The reserved partition was 101 which is not divisible by 4.
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13 Feb 2011   #15
Punkster

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit)
 
 

Hmm i didn't see that one coming.. but probably he meant the C: partition, usually when you install windows 7 (without alignning the SSD/HDD) it'll do it itself, the system reserved is automatically aligned so the other partitions are aligned too..

I guess we'll have to suggest the OP to upload a diskpart picture similar to mine on the attachment (check the offsets, wolfgang, that's why i deduced immediately that he was talking about the C: partition)


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13 Feb 2011   #16
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Punkster, he did not install Windows7 on the SSD but he cloned it from an image. I have done that a few times myself and if you do not align the SSD beforehand, it most likely gets srewed up - unless you use the Paragon cloning program that is designed for moving the OS to an SSD and does proper alignment.

It's OK. You were trying to help. I just wanted to make sure that the OP did not think that everything was fine and dandy.
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13 Feb 2011   #17
Punkster

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit)
 
 

Ohhh snap! i didn't know that he cloned from an image.. wasn't posted on the original post my bad...

Yeah it's probably not aligned then... i just read that he cloned it with acronis.. so, wolfgang, you say that the only reliable program to do the cloning is Paragon?? (without worrying that the SSD won't be aligned and stuff) that way i'll have it for future references hehe
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13 Feb 2011   #18
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Punkster View Post
Ohhh snap! i didn't know that he cloned from an image.. wasn't posted on the original post my bad...

Yeah it's probably not aligned then... i just read that he cloned it with acronis.. so, wolfgang, you say that the only reliable program to do the cloning is Paragon?? (without worrying that the SSD won't be aligned and stuff) that way i'll have it for future references hehe
Yes, that particular Paragon program works very well. I have tested it in real life. But it costs $19.95 - was offered for free from a German computer mag a couple of months ago. But you can, of course, do it manually. But with the 100MB active partition in the way, you have to jump thru quite a few hops. Here is a little tutorial I once made that you can download from here. It is a PDF document.
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14 Feb 2011   #19
computertech19

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP 1;Windows 8 Consumer Preview;Ubuntu 12.10
 
 

I have a small hunch, it could be that your page file(virtual memory) is huge and is taking memory off that SSD. I had the same issue with mine, I had 4GB free after a windows isntall and knew that wasn't right. turned out I had a 12GB page file. Bigger than needed I set it to 2GB and got all my space back.
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14 Feb 2011   #20
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by computertech19 View Post
I have a small hunch, it could be that your page file(virtual memory) is huge and is taking memory off that SSD...
Great point!

You might check how much Hibernation is using, too. Windows 7 hides the file from you (hiberfil.sys) and it can sometimes hang around even after you disable Hibernation.

This all depends on where you are seeing the "107.13 Gig" number, though.
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