| Windows 7: I Am Tyin' To Chill |
12 Feb 2011
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#1 | | win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 Ohio (From WV) |
I Am Tyin' To Chill This may not be a good post but it is to those of you that are about to buy an SSD.
I recently purchased two OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G 2.5" 120Gig OCZ Verte3x 2 Drives. Once installed the size is reported at 107.13 Gig.
Thats a loss of 12.87 Gigs. That is 10.725% less than advertised.
I am accustomed to drives being less than the size printed on the device. But don't you think 10% is a little steep.
The following is a quote from their web site concerning the ssd's:
Consumers may see a discrepancy between reported capacity and actual capacity; the storage industry standard is to display capacity in decimal. However, the operating system usually calculates capacity in binary format, causing traditional HDD and SSD to show a lower capacity in Windows. In the case of SSDs, some of the capacity is reserved for formatting and redundancy for wear leveling.
Going from 120 Gig decimal to "binary" (1028?) would mean a loss of 3.36 Gig. That I would understand. The link in this post is to a news blivot that indicateds to me there has been some dissatisfaction with these drives. They are offering a remedy which a lot of people will not bother with.
I Think I have been had. Maybe not. But I have got that feeling. OCZ Forum - New update on the 25nm OCZ SSD drives
Read all of this News posting. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number BGC (Bob's Garage Crew) OS win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 CPU I3770K Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory G Skill F3-14900CL9-4GBXL x 4 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX670 + Intel 4000 Sound Card Realtek HD 5.1 (MOB) Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW224T (1) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS Wireless 3000 V2 Mouse MS Wireless 3000 V2 PSU CoolerMaster 1000 Watt Case CoolerMaster HAF X Cooling CPU -- CoolerMaster 520N Hard Drives SATA Corsair Force GT 2.5" 180GB (System) Sata 3
OCZ Vertex3 120GB
OCZ Vertex 2 120GB 2.5" SATA II
ST31000524AS 1000.2GB
WD15EARS (External) Internet Speed Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE9 Other Info AMI Bios 1805
OC'd 3% |
12 Feb 2011
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#2 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
In the GB range the difference is 7%. 100GB decimal equal 93GB binary . it is 100Billion bytes in both cases. But where you lost the other 3% beats me. My 2 months old Vertex 2 of 90GB shows up as 83.7 GB which exactly the 7% difference. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
13 Feb 2011
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#3 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 Westlake, Ohio |
SSDs reserve extra space for over provisioning: Quote: Over-provisioning essentially refers to “spare area” that is reserved for background operations that are fundamental to the drive’s performance. NAND natively has around 6 percent over-provisioning built in, so as SSD capacity goes up so does the corresponding percentage of over-provisioning. This increase in “spare area” results in greater performance in the larger capacity drives. Second-to-last paragraph here: Micron Innovations Blog » The 64GB RealSSD
Some manufacturers play it a little loose when reporting capacity. I guess their rational is that the drive is using it, even if you can't. I know some of the seemingly odd sizes you see (60GB, 100GB, etc) are due to that particular manufacturer being a little more forthright about it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (Boot)
2nd - (3) Seagate 1TB 32MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Seagate 320GB (Because) Internet Speed 20Mbps Time-Warner Cable |
13 Feb 2011
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#4 | | win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 Ohio (From WV) |
OK I guess I need to quit whining. It just seemed like a lot of space to me. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BGC (Bob's Garage Crew) OS win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 CPU I3770K Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory G Skill F3-14900CL9-4GBXL x 4 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX670 + Intel 4000 Sound Card Realtek HD 5.1 (MOB) Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW224T (1) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS Wireless 3000 V2 Mouse MS Wireless 3000 V2 PSU CoolerMaster 1000 Watt Case CoolerMaster HAF X Cooling CPU -- CoolerMaster 520N Hard Drives SATA Corsair Force GT 2.5" 180GB (System) Sata 3
OCZ Vertex3 120GB
OCZ Vertex 2 120GB 2.5" SATA II
ST31000524AS 1000.2GB
WD15EARS (External) Internet Speed Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE9 Other Info AMI Bios 1805
OC'd 3% |
13 Feb 2011
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#5 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Yeah, the overprovisioning is there, but it should not show up as missing space from the specified capacity. Your disk should show as 111.6GB binary. Why it shows only as 107.13 beats me.
Check in another place. Type system into Start/Search and hit Enter. Then open Components > Storage > Disks and see what it says there. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
13 Feb 2011
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#6 | | win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 Ohio (From WV) |
Win Sys Info Win sys information lists them as 107.3. Western Dig tools says 115. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BGC (Bob's Garage Crew) OS win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 CPU I3770K Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory G Skill F3-14900CL9-4GBXL x 4 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX670 + Intel 4000 Sound Card Realtek HD 5.1 (MOB) Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW224T (1) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS Wireless 3000 V2 Mouse MS Wireless 3000 V2 PSU CoolerMaster 1000 Watt Case CoolerMaster HAF X Cooling CPU -- CoolerMaster 520N Hard Drives SATA Corsair Force GT 2.5" 180GB (System) Sata 3
OCZ Vertex3 120GB
OCZ Vertex 2 120GB 2.5" SATA II
ST31000524AS 1000.2GB
WD15EARS (External) Internet Speed Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE9 Other Info AMI Bios 1805
OC'd 3% |
13 Feb 2011
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#7 | | win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 Ohio (From WV) |
Info Let me add some info that may be relevant and may not be.
When I set the disks up I plugged them into an external dock and booted with a Acronis 2011 disk. I did not format them. I cloned the OS disk and the other disk. Since it worked I reasoned the format was taken care of by Acronis. I then shut down and installed the disks. Everything worked with out a hitch. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BGC (Bob's Garage Crew) OS win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 CPU I3770K Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory G Skill F3-14900CL9-4GBXL x 4 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX670 + Intel 4000 Sound Card Realtek HD 5.1 (MOB) Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW224T (1) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS Wireless 3000 V2 Mouse MS Wireless 3000 V2 PSU CoolerMaster 1000 Watt Case CoolerMaster HAF X Cooling CPU -- CoolerMaster 520N Hard Drives SATA Corsair Force GT 2.5" 180GB (System) Sata 3
OCZ Vertex3 120GB
OCZ Vertex 2 120GB 2.5" SATA II
ST31000524AS 1000.2GB
WD15EARS (External) Internet Speed Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE9 Other Info AMI Bios 1805
OC'd 3% |
13 Feb 2011
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#8 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
There is still something wrong. Did you align the disk before you cloned the OS? Check the alignment: SSD Alignment | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
13 Feb 2011
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#9 | | win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 Ohio (From WV) |
Alignment The large partition was 1024. The reserved partition was 101 which is not divisible by 4. I'll do some fresh back ups and work on the alignment.
Later | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BGC (Bob's Garage Crew) OS win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 CPU I3770K Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory G Skill F3-14900CL9-4GBXL x 4 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX670 + Intel 4000 Sound Card Realtek HD 5.1 (MOB) Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW224T (1) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS Wireless 3000 V2 Mouse MS Wireless 3000 V2 PSU CoolerMaster 1000 Watt Case CoolerMaster HAF X Cooling CPU -- CoolerMaster 520N Hard Drives SATA Corsair Force GT 2.5" 180GB (System) Sata 3
OCZ Vertex3 120GB
OCZ Vertex 2 120GB 2.5" SATA II
ST31000524AS 1000.2GB
WD15EARS (External) Internet Speed Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE9 Other Info AMI Bios 1805
OC'd 3% |
13 Feb 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit) Valencia, VE. |
Actually, if you multiply 101 by 1024, it'll give you 103424, if you divide that by 4, that's 25856
The SSD is aligned | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by Myself OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit) CPU Intel Core i5-2310 @ 2.90GHz Motherboard MSI PH67A-C43 (B3) Memory Kingston KVR 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 @ 1333MHz Graphics Card PNY XLR8 GTX 560 Ti 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (ALC 892) Monitor(s) Displays LG W2353V-PF Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 (HDMI) Keyboard Logitech MK320 Wireless Keyboard Mouse Logitech MK320 Wireless Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575w Modular 80 PLUS Bronze Case Cooler Master CM Storm Enforcer Cooling Thermaltake Frío, CM MegaFlow 200mm (2), CM 120mm (1) Hard Drives Samsung HD502HJ (500GB), ExcelStor J8080S (80GB) Internet Speed dl: 1024kbps, ul: 512kbps I Am Tyin' To Chill problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:33 PM. | |