thanks Kodi. not so keen on Optus ... have talked to them ... too much small print, no shaping... looking at Virgin ... have heard some negative feedback about their service back-up but I'v saved the page and wlll check it out thoroughly. My main limitation is financial ... although I do feel that all providers are following the leader and being a bit miserable on GB limit. I mean have you seen the plans one can get in say England? Leaves us for dead.