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15 May 2011
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#111 | |
Win7 Ultimate SP1 6.1.7601 x86 The Republic of the Philippines |
The calculator obviously simplified 48/2(9+3) to (48/2)*(9+3) and used SOOO to simplify the equation.
Last edited by kenmdotexe; 16 May 2011 at 03:11 AM..
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15 May 2011
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#112 | |
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Lahore, Pakistan |
48 ÷ 2 (9+3)
24 (12)
24 x 12
= 288
when there's a bracket the values multiply  | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built
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15 May 2011
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#113 | |
Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 Morecambe, Lancashire, England |
Quote: Originally Posted by kenmdotexe 
SOOO vs Pemdas
~ SOOO will basically simplify it to 288.
~ PEMDAS will basically simplify to 2.
The resulting answer between both differs due to dissimilar order of mathematical processes.
~ Division is applied before multiplication in SOOO.
~ Multiplication is applied before division in PEMDAS
They're the same thing, and multiplication and division have the same priority. If they're the two operands to do in a sum, then you just work from left to right. To get the answer 2, you'd have to force the multiplication first and do 48/(2(9+3)).
And calculators that have a stack i.e. graphic calculators will give the result 288. Other calculators without a stack will give the answer 2. I gave an example of it a couple of pages back.
Last edited by Everlong; 15 May 2011 at 11:23 AM..
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15 May 2011
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#114 | |
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1 Toronto |
Quote: Originally Posted by alfred01
Quote: Originally Posted by alfred01 Wow. Don't overthink it folks. Go back to simple math.
48÷2(9+3) Once you do the work in brakets this question becomes
48÷2x12 At this point you follow the math rule that you do complex problems in the order they appear, which gives you
24x12= 288 Order of Operations - PEMDAS [QUOTE=Everlong;1398230]
Quote: Originally Posted by kenmdotexe
SOOO vs Pemdas
~ SOOO will basically simplify it to 288.
~ PEMDAS will basically simplify to 2.
The resulting answer between both differs due to dissimilar order of mathematical processes.
~ Division is applied before multiplication in SOOO.
~ Multiplication is applied before division in PEMDAS
They're the same thing, and multiplication and division have the same priority. If they're the two operands to do in a sum, then you just work from left to right. To get the answer 2, you'd have to force the multiplication first and do 48/(2(9+3)).
And calculators that have a stack i.e. graphic calculators will give the result 288. Other calculators without a stack will give the answer 2. I gave an example of it a couple of pages back. No disrespect intended Everlong, but the rule, in PEMDAS, is not multipication first, multipication and division are equal in status. What you do is simply start from the left and go to the right. | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire 5532
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15 May 2011
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#115 | |
Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 Morecambe, Lancashire, England |
Quote: Originally Posted by alfred01
No disrespect intended Everlong, but the rule, in PEMDAS, is not multipication first, multipication and division are equal in status. What you do is simply start from the left and go to the right. That's what I said, and it's what I've always been saying that multiplication and division have the same precedence.
Just seen my last post has the quote messed up. I've fixed it, so it should look clearer to what I said. | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built
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15 May 2011
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#116 | |
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Utah |
I just do the stuff in parenthesis first, then all the multiplication/division operations from left to right, like they taught me in college. :P
288 | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Zen Productions
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15 May 2011
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#117 | |
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1 Toronto |
Quote: Originally Posted by Everlong
Quote: Originally Posted by alfred01
No disrespect intended Everlong, but the rule, in PEMDAS, is not multipication first, multipication and division are equal in status. What you do is simply start from the left and go to the right. That's what I said, and it's what I've always been saying that multiplication and division have the same precedence.
Just seen my last post has the quote messed up. I've fixed it, so it should look clearer to what I said. I hope there's no hard feelings Everlong. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Zen00 I just do the stuff in parenthesis first, then all the multiplication/division operations from left to right, like they taught me in college. :P
288  | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire 5532
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15 May 2011
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#118 | |
Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 Morecambe, Lancashire, England |
Quote: Originally Posted by alfred01
Quote: Originally Posted by Everlong
Quote: Originally Posted by alfred01
No disrespect intended Everlong, but the rule, in PEMDAS, is not multipication first, multipication and division are equal in status. What you do is simply start from the left and go to the right. That's what I said, and it's what I've always been saying that multiplication and division have the same precedence.
Just seen my last post has the quote messed up. I've fixed it, so it should look clearer to what I said. I hope there's no hard feelings Everlong. None at all | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built
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15 May 2011
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#119 | |
Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 Westlake, Ohio |
Quote: Originally Posted by Everlong Multiplication doesn't have precedence over division though and vice versa. If they're the only two operands left in the sum, then you simply just work left to right and in this case it would be divide then multiply, hence you get 288. You get the A+.
Microsoft Math bears this out, as does Professor M. at CSU.
If you still don't believe it you must be using a Mac.  | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self
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15 May 2011
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#120 | |
Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 |
Quote: Originally Posted by profdlp
Quote: Originally Posted by Everlong Multiplication doesn't have precedence over division though and vice versa. If they're the only two operands left in the sum, then you simply just work left to right and in this case it would be divide then multiply, hence you get 288. You get the A+.
Microsoft Math bears this out, as does Professor M. at CSU.
If you still don't believe it you must be using a Mac. MS Math FTW. LOL at using a Mac XD XD XD | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus G73SW-XN2
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