| Windows 7: Blast from the Past |
11 Jun 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Philadelphia |
Blast from the Past I've also been working on my old handed-down-to-my-sister 2300 Dell Dimension Desktop. Well, it's hardly that anymore. Now, it's sporting these changes...
BIOSTAR A880G+ AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Athlon II x2 245 Regor 2.9GHz
2x2GB SDRAM-DDR3 1066MHz
ATI Radeon HD 4250 (integrated on mb)
& soon... Newegg.com - SYBA SD-HUB20058 USB 3.0 4-port Hub (Can be Used Internally or Externally)
(Same price for 3.0 as 2.0, so why not? I'll add another PCI card to convert later on.)
PROBLEM:
The original HDD is still beasting along somehow! So are the original 2 DVD drives. But they've each got an IDE/PATA ribbon cable. The board only has 1 header for them.  Would something like this Newegg.com - AMC 24" 3-Connector Teflon Coated IDE True ATA133/100 Flat Cable Model CATA100-243 - Cables work? I haven't been tech savvy for that long in my young life, and am unfamiliar with some older standards.  Anyone know for sure? I'd like to at least get the HDD (of course) & 1 DVD drive working.
I need to have it in time for when I go home next weekend so I can finish the job. For some reason it's cheaper to ship to Pa than NJ. *shrug*
Thanks in advance. | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Black Edition 3.2GHz Motherboard ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 Memory Patriot G ‘Sector 5’ Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz Sound Card (onboard) Realtek® ALC 892 8-Channel High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX2253 22", Dell circa-2002 CRT Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1024x768 Keyboard Verbatim 97472 Mini Wireless Slim Mouse bundled Verbatim 97472 Wireless PSU CORSAIR TX Series 950W ATX12V 80 Plus Bronze Case Cooler Master HAF X NVidia Edition; 5 Green LED Fans! Cooling CORSAIR A70 120mm Dual-Fan Hard Drives Transcend SSD720 2.5" SATAIII 64GB SSD; Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB 64MB 3.5" HDD
LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner with LightScribe Other Info Ultraportable/Desktop Replacement Laptop:
circa Oct 2006,
Dell XPS M1210,
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit,
Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 2.0GHz,
3.25 (4) GB of RAM,
NVidia GeForce Go 7400,
500GB Seagate Momentus 7200RPM HDD -- IT'S ALIVE AGAIN! |
11 Jun 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Hi Denise, the 3 connector ribbon has one for the header and two for devices. I got confused when you said "Each has a ribbon cable..."
the ribbon will support 2 IDE devices per header, the outer one will be Master and the center one Slave. Should be jumpers on the HSS and DVD drive with a hard-to-see diagram of how to place them. some have a CS setting which will allow Master and Slave to be sellected by the cable. That is what ever is connnected to the end, Master, middle, Slave.
I've not used one for a HDD and a DVD drive, but I think it should work. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
11 Jun 2011
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#3 | | Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz) SomeWhere in the HOT Arizona Desert ! |
I asume the HD is IDE. Set the Jumper to Master. Set your best DVD drive (DVD R/W) to Slave. I would think your would already have one of these Flat IDE ribbons cables with 2 of your IDE attached ? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built them myself, Science Experiments ! OS Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz) CPU AMD fx8350 4ghz, AMD-32 2400mhz, AMD-64 3200mhz, AMDx64 2.8G Motherboard SIS 755, ECS-K8M890M-M (Ult 7600), GigaByte & others Memory 2gb, 4gb on the Ult 7600, 4gb on Technet RTM, 32gb on FX8350 Graphics Card Draw my own Graphics, several nVidia cards Sound Card on motherboard Monitor(s) Displays 19" flat scr, 28" I-Inc widescr,22" Emprex Widescr, 23" Acer Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024, 1440 x 900, 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Compaq & Dell recycled from GoodWill Mouse Made in China Optical Wired Mouse PSU 430w, 550w, 600w, 700, 800, etc Case All Generic Full Towers Cooling Open Air & a few fans, some w/ colored LEDs Hard Drives 6 pata Ide HD's & 2 Sata HD's
added 80gb external on Ult 7600 computer,
numerous extra 1tb, 2TB, 3Tb SATA HD's
A collection of ext HD Docks w/ HDs Internet Speed Fast Cable InterNet Antivirus AVG Free on 24 different Desktops, NO Problems! Browser IE 8 is preferred, but use FireFox sometimes Other Info Linksys Routers, switches, & Hubs
Too Many USB Flash Drives to count, Biggest is 64GB !
Eight computers in my home network.
Sixteen computers at my business network.
Linked via TeamViewer !
Lots of old used spare computer parts everywhere! |
11 Jun 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Philadelphia |
Yeah, it's strange. I know from when I've had my dad's 8400 Dimension open, (under the guide of a phone-tech back then) the ribbon cables were master-slave piggybacked as you described. But I don't remember if it was just the DVD drives or 2 DVD & 1 HDD. I don't even remember if he has 1 or 2 DVD drives come to think of it... These here, each device has it's own cable and they all have only 1 connector at their respective ends.
Anyway, I do understand that the ribbon I have linked to will support 2 devices and that the end one goes into the header. I just wanted to be certain this is IT, ya know. I got used to the separate cords in my rig for SATA & power.
I'm planning that when the HDD kicks it, I can move the 2nd DVD drive into it's place, as a modern HDD will connect via SATA III at least. Then again, it's 9 years old and going strong! I can't believe it, especially after all I've put that thing through when I was in high school!
Thanks so much! I'd rep but can't here. ^_^
Who knows, maybe it'll be fast enough to run 7? Then I wouldn't feel so sheepish posting about a half-ancient computer in the regular categories. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Black Edition 3.2GHz Motherboard ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 Memory Patriot G ‘Sector 5’ Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz Sound Card (onboard) Realtek® ALC 892 8-Channel High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX2253 22", Dell circa-2002 CRT Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1024x768 Keyboard Verbatim 97472 Mini Wireless Slim Mouse bundled Verbatim 97472 Wireless PSU CORSAIR TX Series 950W ATX12V 80 Plus Bronze Case Cooler Master HAF X NVidia Edition; 5 Green LED Fans! Cooling CORSAIR A70 120mm Dual-Fan Hard Drives Transcend SSD720 2.5" SATAIII 64GB SSD; Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB 64MB 3.5" HDD
LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner with LightScribe Other Info Ultraportable/Desktop Replacement Laptop:
circa Oct 2006,
Dell XPS M1210,
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit,
Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 2.0GHz,
3.25 (4) GB of RAM,
NVidia GeForce Go 7400,
500GB Seagate Momentus 7200RPM HDD -- IT'S ALIVE AGAIN! |
11 Jun 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Philadelphia |

Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown I asume the HD is IDE. Set the Jumper to Master. Set your best DVD drive (DVD R/W) to Slave. I would think your would already have one of these Flat IDE ribbons cables with 2 of your IDE attached ? (Lol, I see the title is what enticed you to take a look  very cool)
Yeah, IDE. I don't have one yet. I'm going to order the one I linked to.
Come to think of it, if I get 2, could I then piggyback both the DVD drives to the slave connector? If you could picture what I mean... | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Black Edition 3.2GHz Motherboard ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 Memory Patriot G ‘Sector 5’ Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz Sound Card (onboard) Realtek® ALC 892 8-Channel High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX2253 22", Dell circa-2002 CRT Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1024x768 Keyboard Verbatim 97472 Mini Wireless Slim Mouse bundled Verbatim 97472 Wireless PSU CORSAIR TX Series 950W ATX12V 80 Plus Bronze Case Cooler Master HAF X NVidia Edition; 5 Green LED Fans! Cooling CORSAIR A70 120mm Dual-Fan Hard Drives Transcend SSD720 2.5" SATAIII 64GB SSD; Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB 64MB 3.5" HDD
LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner with LightScribe Other Info Ultraportable/Desktop Replacement Laptop:
circa Oct 2006,
Dell XPS M1210,
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit,
Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 2.0GHz,
3.25 (4) GB of RAM,
NVidia GeForce Go 7400,
500GB Seagate Momentus 7200RPM HDD -- IT'S ALIVE AGAIN! |
11 Jun 2011
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#6 | | Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz) SomeWhere in the HOT Arizona Desert ! |
I'm confused, How did you have 3 IDE devices, on single cables, when old MB's only had 2 IDE headers. Max of 2 ide devices per header. Or was there a PCI add on card for IDE connections? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built them myself, Science Experiments ! OS Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz) CPU AMD fx8350 4ghz, AMD-32 2400mhz, AMD-64 3200mhz, AMDx64 2.8G Motherboard SIS 755, ECS-K8M890M-M (Ult 7600), GigaByte & others Memory 2gb, 4gb on the Ult 7600, 4gb on Technet RTM, 32gb on FX8350 Graphics Card Draw my own Graphics, several nVidia cards Sound Card on motherboard Monitor(s) Displays 19" flat scr, 28" I-Inc widescr,22" Emprex Widescr, 23" Acer Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024, 1440 x 900, 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Compaq & Dell recycled from GoodWill Mouse Made in China Optical Wired Mouse PSU 430w, 550w, 600w, 700, 800, etc Case All Generic Full Towers Cooling Open Air & a few fans, some w/ colored LEDs Hard Drives 6 pata Ide HD's & 2 Sata HD's
added 80gb external on Ult 7600 computer,
numerous extra 1tb, 2TB, 3Tb SATA HD's
A collection of ext HD Docks w/ HDs Internet Speed Fast Cable InterNet Antivirus AVG Free on 24 different Desktops, NO Problems! Browser IE 8 is preferred, but use FireFox sometimes Other Info Linksys Routers, switches, & Hubs
Too Many USB Flash Drives to count, Biggest is 64GB !
Eight computers in my home network.
Sixteen computers at my business network.
Linked via TeamViewer !
Lots of old used spare computer parts everywhere! |
11 Jun 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Philadelphia |
No, there wasn't a PCI add on. That would've been awesome to just move over. I don't know how they did it. I'll have to wait til I'm back in NJ again & open it back up. I'll let you know how it turns out. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Black Edition 3.2GHz Motherboard ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 Memory Patriot G ‘Sector 5’ Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz Sound Card (onboard) Realtek® ALC 892 8-Channel High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX2253 22", Dell circa-2002 CRT Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1024x768 Keyboard Verbatim 97472 Mini Wireless Slim Mouse bundled Verbatim 97472 Wireless PSU CORSAIR TX Series 950W ATX12V 80 Plus Bronze Case Cooler Master HAF X NVidia Edition; 5 Green LED Fans! Cooling CORSAIR A70 120mm Dual-Fan Hard Drives Transcend SSD720 2.5" SATAIII 64GB SSD; Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB 64MB 3.5" HDD
LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner with LightScribe Other Info Ultraportable/Desktop Replacement Laptop:
circa Oct 2006,
Dell XPS M1210,
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit,
Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 2.0GHz,
3.25 (4) GB of RAM,
NVidia GeForce Go 7400,
500GB Seagate Momentus 7200RPM HDD -- IT'S ALIVE AGAIN! |
11 Jun 2011
|
#8 | | Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz) SomeWhere in the HOT Arizona Desert ! |
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built them myself, Science Experiments ! OS Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz) CPU AMD fx8350 4ghz, AMD-32 2400mhz, AMD-64 3200mhz, AMDx64 2.8G Motherboard SIS 755, ECS-K8M890M-M (Ult 7600), GigaByte & others Memory 2gb, 4gb on the Ult 7600, 4gb on Technet RTM, 32gb on FX8350 Graphics Card Draw my own Graphics, several nVidia cards Sound Card on motherboard Monitor(s) Displays 19" flat scr, 28" I-Inc widescr,22" Emprex Widescr, 23" Acer Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024, 1440 x 900, 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Compaq & Dell recycled from GoodWill Mouse Made in China Optical Wired Mouse PSU 430w, 550w, 600w, 700, 800, etc Case All Generic Full Towers Cooling Open Air & a few fans, some w/ colored LEDs Hard Drives 6 pata Ide HD's & 2 Sata HD's
added 80gb external on Ult 7600 computer,
numerous extra 1tb, 2TB, 3Tb SATA HD's
A collection of ext HD Docks w/ HDs Internet Speed Fast Cable InterNet Antivirus AVG Free on 24 different Desktops, NO Problems! Browser IE 8 is preferred, but use FireFox sometimes Other Info Linksys Routers, switches, & Hubs
Too Many USB Flash Drives to count, Biggest is 64GB !
Eight computers in my home network.
Sixteen computers at my business network.
Linked via TeamViewer !
Lots of old used spare computer parts everywhere! |
12 Jun 2011
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#9 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 Westlake, Ohio |

Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Something like that would be a good way to go.
Something to keep in mind is that when there are two IDE devices on the same channel the faster device will drop down to the speed of the slower one. With a HD/DVD combo you could see a performance hit in the HD performance, not to mention that burning anything to the DVD from the HD would keep that poor little PATA IDE channel pretty busy.
For that matter, I would consider foregoing the add-in card and buying an SATA HD and/or DVD. Newegg has 1TB SATA HDs for around fifty bucks. An SATA DVD burner is not much over $20. Either one would be far more likely to be useful down the road, too. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (Boot)
2nd - (3) Seagate 1TB 32MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Seagate 320GB (Because) Internet Speed 20Mbps Time-Warner Cable |
12 Jun 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Philadelphia |
Newegg.com - BIOSTAR A880G+ AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
2 PCI & a PCIE.
That's all not even counting the 4th IDE cable for the 3.5" floppy drive. Of course, that's not getting plugged back in.
I'll post a pic of the old motherboard this coming weekend. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Black Edition 3.2GHz Motherboard ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 Memory Patriot G ‘Sector 5’ Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz Sound Card (onboard) Realtek® ALC 892 8-Channel High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX2253 22", Dell circa-2002 CRT Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1024x768 Keyboard Verbatim 97472 Mini Wireless Slim Mouse bundled Verbatim 97472 Wireless PSU CORSAIR TX Series 950W ATX12V 80 Plus Bronze Case Cooler Master HAF X NVidia Edition; 5 Green LED Fans! Cooling CORSAIR A70 120mm Dual-Fan Hard Drives Transcend SSD720 2.5" SATAIII 64GB SSD; Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB 64MB 3.5" HDD
LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner with LightScribe Other Info Ultraportable/Desktop Replacement Laptop:
circa Oct 2006,
Dell XPS M1210,
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit,
Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 2.0GHz,
3.25 (4) GB of RAM,
NVidia GeForce Go 7400,
500GB Seagate Momentus 7200RPM HDD -- IT'S ALIVE AGAIN! Blast from the Past problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:23 PM. | |