| Windows 7: Looking to buy a new monitor |
26 Jun 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Ohio - U.S.A |
Looking to buy a new monitor This is kinda off topic, but kinda not. Anyway,
I have a 20" monitor and I want to upgrade to around a 27". I have 3 screens, 2 are HP 2010i and one is a Dell ST2010. I have noticed the Dell being much darker than the HP's, even when I adjust the settings. I thought this was because of the HDMI but then I noticed a huge difference in dynamic contrast ratio. The HP's have a dynamic contrast ratio of 15,000:1 while the Dell has 1000:1. To be honest, I don't know what dynamic contrast ratio is but this makes me think that the lower the ratio the darker the screen? After thinking that, I took a look at the monitor I want to get and it has a 3,000,000:1 ratio.
What I'm getting at here is that I want a 27" that is as close to my 20" HP as I can, but LED because of the more vibrant colors (right?)
Here are the monitors:
*What I am thinking about getting: Amazon.com: HP 2711x 27-Inch LED Monitor - Black: Computer & Accessories
*What I have (also what I want to replicate): Amazon.com: HP 2010i 20-Inch Diagonal HD Ready LCD Monitor - Black: Computer & Accessories
*The other one I have (What I DONT want to replicate): Amazon.com: Dell ST2010 20-Inch 16:9 Aspect Ratio Flat Panel Monitor: Computer & Accessories | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 8100 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU Intel Core i7 860 @ 2.80GHz Motherboard Dell Inc. 0T568R Memory 8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 529MHz 4-7-7-20 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5770 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 3 Widescreen HD Monitors Screen Resolution 1600x800 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Keyboard Mouse Logitech MX PSU 750W Case - Cooling Fans Hard Drives 1000GB Seagate ST31000528AS (SCSI)
1500GB Western Digital WDC WD1001FALS-00J7B1 (SCSI) Internet Speed 6MBS-15MBS Upload Other Info Laptop (Dell Studio 1537)
Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo T6400 @ 2.00GHz
4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 |
26 Jun 2011
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#2 | | |
I have this Newegg.com - Asus VE248H Black 24" 1920X1080 2ms Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor w/Speakers 250 cd/m2 10,000,000:1
I'm quite happy with the balance of performance and price. 200 bucks or even less depending on where you go I generally buy from newegg because returns are painless with them. Amazon I've had 4 week long nightmares with returning stuff.
The only downside is if you plan on placing it high up, it doesn't lean forward much. ...and of course as with all monitors the built in speakers suck (but does anyone actually use those things? if they do I feel sorry for them)
Anyhow I'm actually considering a second atm. I've had this one for 9 months or so now. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Insane hobo technologies. ;-) OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard Asrock z68 extreme 4 gen 3 Memory G.skill Ripjaw 16gigs @ 1866 Graphics Card Nvidia gtx580 (evga) Sound Card Integrated HD audio + hdmi Monitor(s) Displays 24" ASUS widescreen + 42" insignia Screen Resolution 1080p (1920x1080) Keyboard Microsoft wireless 3000 (v2) Mouse MS - wireless 5000 (bluetrack) PSU 1 kilowatt SLI/Crossfire rated Silverstone modular Case NZXT Phantom + additional 220 fan Cooling Zalmann Hard Drives 128 Samsung 830
256 Samsung 840
3 x 1tb storage drive (various)
1 western digital 1tb (eSATA)
1 Seagate 1tb (eSATA) Internet Speed depends on if you ask me or my provider. Other Info The above information is provided as is, and the author assumes no responsibility for issues it may cause with your sanity or fanboyism. |
27 Jun 2011
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#3 | | |
Well, the contrast ratio itself is the difference between the brightest color and the darkest color that a monitor can display. A higher contrast ratio is always desired.
Disclaimer: There is no established method for measuring the contrast ratio that is defined by a standards organization. Therefore, you cannot exactly compare the published results from one manufacturer against another to figure out which is better.
Static contrast ratio is the better one to consider, but dynamic contrast ratio gets pushed by mfg's mostly because it's a higher number and numbers sell.
Check out this guide, for some more information. Rather than simply regurgitating what it said, I just linked it here; The Contrast Ratio Game - Playing with Numbers: TV Contrast Ratio Explained
From a performance standpoint, I would look at an IPS flat panel. The Dell U2711 would fit what you are looking for....but be prepared, it's close to $1,000 Dell UltraSharp U2711 Review - Watch CNET's Video Review http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSj9eT2EuVU
I've been preparing to replace my crappy TN based Acer panel with a Dell U2410 (24") for quite some time...but things keep stealing the $600 out of my budget. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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27 Jun 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Colne, Lancashire, UK |
+1 for pp's point. An IPS panel will cost more but there is a world of difference over a regular TN panel. See this: LCD Panel Technology Explained - S-IPS, H-IPS, S-PVA, MVA and TN | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The Monolith. 3.1 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU i7 2700K@4.5GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-D3H Memory 2x4GB Corsair Vegeance DDR3 Graphics Card XFX GTX 260 Black Edition Sound Card none-through large stereo hi fi Monitor(s) Displays Croosover 27MDP LED IPS Dell 2408 WFP Screen Resolution 2560x1440 1920x1200 Keyboard Enermax Aurora Mouse Logitech Ballmouse PSU Corsair AX 850 Watt Case Cooler Master ACTS 840 Cooling Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro Hard Drives 1x Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD
1x Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB Internet Speed 20MBPS |
27 Jun 2011
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#5 | | |
Yeah see that's the thing for me, there isn't an enormous amount of quality difference to me that suggest paying over 100% more.
I also don't care about view angles as I sit with my monitors facing me directly, though everyone is different.
Viewing angle is actually something I pay more attention to with TV's but with monitors it's never been a big issue for me. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Insane hobo technologies. ;-) OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard Asrock z68 extreme 4 gen 3 Memory G.skill Ripjaw 16gigs @ 1866 Graphics Card Nvidia gtx580 (evga) Sound Card Integrated HD audio + hdmi Monitor(s) Displays 24" ASUS widescreen + 42" insignia Screen Resolution 1080p (1920x1080) Keyboard Microsoft wireless 3000 (v2) Mouse MS - wireless 5000 (bluetrack) PSU 1 kilowatt SLI/Crossfire rated Silverstone modular Case NZXT Phantom + additional 220 fan Cooling Zalmann Hard Drives 128 Samsung 830
256 Samsung 840
3 x 1tb storage drive (various)
1 western digital 1tb (eSATA)
1 Seagate 1tb (eSATA) Internet Speed depends on if you ask me or my provider. Other Info The above information is provided as is, and the author assumes no responsibility for issues it may cause with your sanity or fanboyism. |
27 Jun 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Colne, Lancashire, UK |
Fair point but the colours are just stunning and can be calibrated accurately (and the gamut is greater) and you get startling blacks and much less "black crush", there's more gradation.
I know what you mean about double the price, but I think it's horses for courses. I do use my computer as both a workstation and for movies and gaming, so for me it's the most important part of the whole kit. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The Monolith. 3.1 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU i7 2700K@4.5GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-D3H Memory 2x4GB Corsair Vegeance DDR3 Graphics Card XFX GTX 260 Black Edition Sound Card none-through large stereo hi fi Monitor(s) Displays Croosover 27MDP LED IPS Dell 2408 WFP Screen Resolution 2560x1440 1920x1200 Keyboard Enermax Aurora Mouse Logitech Ballmouse PSU Corsair AX 850 Watt Case Cooler Master ACTS 840 Cooling Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro Hard Drives 1x Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD
1x Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB Internet Speed 20MBPS |
27 Jun 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |
Another plus for an IPS panel. This is the one I recently purchased - Amazon.com: HP ZR22w 21.5-inch S-IPS LCD Monitor
As a photographer color fidelity is very important to me and this fits my my requirements for that area. It'll also blow away any TN panels in both color and viewing angles.
As for "gaming" well this one has no ghosting images. I know people get caught up in the response time but I'm here to tell you that response time isn't everything, in fact most of your more upper end color fidelity monitors have response times around 8ms. Anyway this one has a response time of 8ms (gray to gray) and has NO ghosting problems when gaming!
Reviews..... HP ZR22w 21.5-inch LCD Computer Display | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card Soundblaster ZXR Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB), 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
27 Jun 2011
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#8 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed Yeah see that's the thing for me, there isn't an enormous amount of quality difference to me that suggest paying over 100% more. It's also often true that many people who are satisfied with TN panels, aren't even sure what to test with and what to look at to find the advantage of an IPS panel over a TN panel. Thus, they don't see any reason to pay more for the IPS panel.
For example, if you had 2 panels side by side and 1 was an IPS and 1 was a TN, you might find yourself wishing they were the same. Especially if you were doing any photographic work or desktop publishing where color accuracy was very important.
Viewing angles are usually more important when you have somebody else viewing from the side or collaborating on work. Or you have a 2-3 monitor setup and not every panel is 100% straight inline with you. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
27 Jun 2011
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#9 | | Windows 8 Pro Standish, Lancashire, England |
I have 4 of these (3 on my rig and one spare) and the color quality just blows every other screen I've had out of the water. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number doofenshmirtz evil incorporated OS Windows 8 Pro CPU Intel Core i7-3970X Extreme Edition Motherboard ASRock X79 EXTREME11 Memory 32GB (8x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Dominator Platinum Graphics Card 2x 3GB EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked+ Sound Card Creative Monitor(s) Displays 3 x27" Dell & 2 x 23" Dell Screen Resolution 3 @ 2560x1440 & 2 @ 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Ergononic 7000 Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU 1500W ThermalTake Toughpower Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Cooling Antec Kúhler H2O 620 CPU Watercooler Hard Drives 240GB Intel 520 Series, 2.5" SSD, SATA III
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HP CP1515n Color Laser
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Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
APC 750i Smart UPS |
27 Jun 2011
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#10 | | |
^ Thanks for the confirmation. I've seen the U2410 and they are beautiful monitors and for those who know what to look for, they are usually highly regarded. I just wish I could find the money to invest in 1 of them...let alone 4 of the 27". | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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