| Windows 7: Google user or Guru? |
11 Jan 2009
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Google user or Guru? Hey, I was wondering these days, if the Gurus of the site are real Gurus or just google users! Please dont take it wrong but everytime I ask a question that I dont find on the net or the forum, noone has an answer for me.
Ok, searching google is fun, but isnt knowledge that matters?
I am somehow dissapointed, sorry for that but I believe the site has few real gurus. I hope I am wrong.
Friendly Vic. | My System Specs |
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11 Jan 2009
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#2 | | Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. Denmark |
Some knowledge I have. A lot I have googled for, in the past, from early XP days, and built up a heavy document on my own computer. Nearly 80% of questions being asked about windows 7, were also asked and answered, for Vista, or even XP. Of course, where applicable, I just refer to those. Other than that, I do feel that posters with queries on a forum such as this, have come here bacause they are looking for answers on this link and, important, cross feedback on the problem, from whoever chooses to join the thread. Otherwise, most seekers for solutions could, as you suggest, merely google. They would surely be returned, in many of the links, to forums like this one. That is the nature of the Internet search engines.
From my own point of view, should I seek knowledge on any subject, I would be irritated by merely being given a link to another source. I would consider that as superfluous.
Quite honestly, I think the only true gurus, restricting the answer to Windows 7, are the Microsoft software engineers who actually wrote the code. In that respect, I have to agree with your last para.
I could recommend, if you feel so strongly about the matter, that you visit one of the Microsoft forums. Whilst the exchanges do not differ from what you will find here, usually a Microsoft Techician will pop into the thread with the authorative answer.
There are several like these, for example: Discussions in microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_assessment
Last edited by davehc; 11 Jan 2009 at 10:13 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Three desktops and one laptop with good specs.. OS Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. |
11 Jan 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by wizardcia Hey, I was wondering these days, if the Gurus of the site are real Gurus or just google users! Please dont take it wrong but everytime I ask a question that I dont find on the net or the forum, noone has an answer for me.
Ok, searching google is fun, but isnt knowledge that matters?
I am somehow dissapointed, sorry for that but I believe the site has few real gurus. I hope I am wrong.
Friendly Vic. 
umm..... everyone has expertise in different areas, im sorry you have not been lucky with your answers thus far but that by NO means shows a lac of knowledge on this forum.
if someone passed you information from google, then its fair to assume its readily available & could have been found just as easily by you.
still if you don't like the way this forum operates there's no place for you here.
DO NOT slander the resident ''Guru's'' again.  SK | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number myself OS SEVEN x64 CPU Q9450 @ 3.6GHZ 1.34v Motherboard ASUS P5K PREMIUM P35 Memory 8GB 1066 buffalo firestix @ 1152mhz CL5 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 5970 + GTX260 (physX) Sound Card Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG 20'' & SAMSUNG 23'' (dual screens) Screen Resolution 2048x1152 & 1680x1050 Keyboard LOGITECH E110 Mouse logitech NX5 PSU XCILIO 850w (78A) Case CM590 1x 120x38mm & 2x92x38mm / 4x 120x25mm Cooling AC7 PRO @ 92x38mm blower, Lamptron military bus bay controll Hard Drives 1x seagate 160gb IDE & 1x seagate 160gb SATA Internet Speed 2MB Other Info its a continual ''work in progress''.... |
11 Jan 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
I would agree with skunksmash, I don't see how you can make an assumption like that from being here for a day or two and asking one question that hasn't been solved yet. There are many knowledgable members here, skunksmash being one of them and sometimes questions take a while to be solved. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Airbot 2.0 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, *26c idle *65c full load on air Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium - Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0 Memory 12GB DDR3 Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8 at 1600MHz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 -Aftermaket Accelero Xtreme Plus cooler Sound Card ASUS Xonar D2X Monitor(s) Displays 1 LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF 1 Samsung 24" P2450H both 2ms RT Screen Resolution 1920x1080@60hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless MK700 Mouse Logitech Wireless MK700 PSU Corsair HX1000W Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Case Fans *3 230mm, *1 140mm/CPU - *Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme Hard Drives 1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD
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11 Jan 2009
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#5 | | W 7 64-bit Ultimate The Lowcountry |
Hello wizardcia, welcome to Windows 7 Forums!
Some time it's just easier to give someone a link instead of writing out a reply to something that's been written a thousand times elsewhere.
Case in point; I could write to you an explination on how to do this; but why not use this? How to dual boot Vista and XP (with Vista installed first) -- the step-by-step guide with screenshots
Isn't this way just easier. Please be nicer with your comments in future.
Later  Ted | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number * BFK Customs * OS W 7 64-bit Ultimate CPU Intel Q9550 Yorkfield Motherboard ASUS P5Q Pro Memory 8GB Dominator 8500C5D Graphics Card ATI : XFX 5870 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio 7-1 Monitor(s) Displays 1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI Screen Resolution 1920x1080P & 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft 500 Mouse Razer Diamondback 3G PSU Corsair 620HX Case Cooler Master RC-690 Cooling Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans Hard Drives 1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s) Internet Speed 14 Mb/s Other Info 1x Koutech 3Gb/s SATA HDD Hot Swap Rack |
11 Jan 2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
wizardcia,
As a statement qualifier, let me first say that I am not the best uber geek here - or anything like that. I do know what I know, and that is quite a bit, but I am not going to bore you with repeating what the others have said - when it is easier to refer someone to a set of nicely laid out instructions that we pull from a Google link, we do.
However, we also use our very own Windows 7 - Tutorial Index as well as our very own posts - see my post http://www.sevenforums.com/general-d...html#post10171 where I explain how some Seagate Barracuda HD users can get their WEI HD benchmark to be correct - and sometimes actually create a new post on the fly.
You have to look at *several* things though.... - Having to answer a lot of posts, and this place have exponentially increased over the last several days, is hard when you have to type out phrases by hand over and over. At several other sites I belonged to, there were canned responses used when answering questions, particularly security questions (relating to malware infections and malware prevention), but here I take a more fresh approach - I try *not* to use a canned response so I am interacting a little more with each user I respond to.
- Another thing is to look at the time available bad the number of posts needing requesting help. Over at the sister site, Vista x64 forums, I joined sometime in May of 2008 - by September 2008 I had almost (or over, don't quite remember) 3000 posts - and sometimes I was on the board for 3 hours trying to go through every new post *just in the general discussion forum* to make sure no user had been left out or had not been answered, at the very least acknowledged. In situations like this, it is a *lot* easier to point someone to a link than it is to write out the whole shebang.
It's hit and miss - sometimes it takes that you find someone who has your *exact* symptoms and your *exact* hardware before you see a light go off and are able to fix something. The issue I link above is almost exclusively with Seagate barracuda HDs, and the *solution* is almost exclusively for nForce chipset-based motherboards. But until I went digging further, all I knew was that my WEI went from 2.x to 5.9 when disabling Command Queue. Other users have since reported not having such a tab, or not being able to enable / disable that particular check box - and with me *not* having another computer that is not nForce based, I cannot answer the question that they pose.
There are very very few people in the world who have seen it all and done it all. And there is less and less time every day due to other obligations. The economy sucks, we need to work more hours or get a second job, and yet we keep coming back here to help - without places like this *so* many users would end up *never* getting any help whatsoever, just plodding along with their hardware working halfway, or with their problem simply being ignored instead of fixed. It takes time and effort to even just research the answer ourselves and present it back to the user.
So, to answer your question, no we're not *just* uber searchers - but that *is* one of our skills. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
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12 Jan 2009
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32 bit/Windows 8 64bit Pembrokeshire, South Wales, UK |
Even being a Googler takes time and effort if you don't use the correct phrases or key words | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Zoostorm Desktop/ Asus K55A Notebook PC OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32 bit/Windows 8 64bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 @ 2400 MHz/Intel B820,1.7GHz Motherboard Foxconn 45CMX/45GMX/45CMX-K/Asus Memory 2048 MB (2 x 1024 DDR2-SDRAM)/8GB 2 x 4GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel Corp 82945G Integrated Graphics Controller/Intel Sound Card Onboard Realtek/Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Hanns.G HH221 22" inches Widescreen/Asus 15.6 Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080/1366 x 768 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 (UK)/Inbuilt Mouse Microsoft Optical Wheel Mouse/Touchpad Hard Drives ExcelStor (250GB)/Asus Internet Speed Just under 4MB download it's ADSL. Antivirus MSE/MSE Browser IE10/IE10 Other Info Epson Stylus SX415 All-in-one Printer,
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12 Jan 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Airbot I would agree with skunksmash, I don't see how you can make an assumption like that from being here for a day or two and asking one question that hasn't been solved yet. There are many knowledgable members here, skunksmash being one of them and sometimes questions take a while to be solved. I have just downloaded Windows 7 so I decided to create an account here to.
I had on VistaX64 also one, and no replyies to. I dont say that everyone here is dummies, in fact I dont want to think that way but this is what I see and I express my opinion. I dont mean to insult, I mean to point some worries. I mean ok, the site is great the staff is great, I like it, and I dont demand advice for ALL my questions, but sinse I have major problems, which I cant find on the net, I expect you guys to know sinse you decided to dedicate a webpage for entire OS.
Sinse April 2008 I am waiting some answers to be solved. They are just forgoten so I forget them to, but the fact remains.
So again I meant no insult. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Altec OS Windos 7 RTM 7600 CPU Quad Core Q6600 at 2,4Ghz Motherboard ECS G31T-M 1.0 Memory 2GBs on 800Mhz at 5,6,6,16 Graphics Card nVidia Ge Force 8600GT with 512Mb Monitor(s) Displays Philips 200VW 20'' Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Fujitsu Siemens Mouse A sports car Cooling Air cooling Hard Drives SATA at 500GBs Internet Speed 8 Mpbs Down 1Mpbs Up |
12 Jan 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by skunksmash umm..... everyone has expertise in different areas, im sorry you have not been lucky with your answers thus far but that by NO means shows a lac of knowledge on this forum.
if someone passed you information from google, then its fair to assume its readily available & could have been found just as easily by you.
still if you don't like the way this forum operates there's no place for you here.
DO NOT slander the resident ''Guru's'' again.  SK Hey friend there is no need to be cynical. I wanted to express my opinions in a democratic way, there is no need for disallowing me doing things. I had only possitive intentions when I wrote this. I believe that hearing all voices we all might turn better. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Altec OS Windos 7 RTM 7600 CPU Quad Core Q6600 at 2,4Ghz Motherboard ECS G31T-M 1.0 Memory 2GBs on 800Mhz at 5,6,6,16 Graphics Card nVidia Ge Force 8600GT with 512Mb Monitor(s) Displays Philips 200VW 20'' Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Fujitsu Siemens Mouse A sports car Cooling Air cooling Hard Drives SATA at 500GBs Internet Speed 8 Mpbs Down 1Mpbs Up |
12 Jan 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt wizardcia,
......... Hey friend as I said to all, I have no bad intentions. I know that we cant know eveything, so we have to rely sometimes elsewhere, but I know that such subjects are beeing studied, and people who have been taught this art, many times have answer to every quetion. But ok, sinse I am a google user to I dont mean to insult the site or the people for beeing irresponsible not answering anythings someone asks. I barely had never asked a question about something that cant be found on the net.
I treat respect for the site and all its members.
Friendly Vic | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Altec OS Windos 7 RTM 7600 CPU Quad Core Q6600 at 2,4Ghz Motherboard ECS G31T-M 1.0 Memory 2GBs on 800Mhz at 5,6,6,16 Graphics Card nVidia Ge Force 8600GT with 512Mb Monitor(s) Displays Philips 200VW 20'' Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Fujitsu Siemens Mouse A sports car Cooling Air cooling Hard Drives SATA at 500GBs Internet Speed 8 Mpbs Down 1Mpbs Up Google user or Guru? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:19 PM. | |