| Windows 7: Alienware - Not worth the money... |
15 Aug 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64/Windows 8 Consumer Preview x64/Ubuntu 11.04 Somewhere Over The Rainbow |
Alienware - Not worth the money... | My System Specs |
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 sp1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by JaidynM I knew that Alienware was a rip off, but not by this much. And yet, one of my friends is insistent that they're better then actually building one yourself.  You realize it so late?  Mac are the same s***.
The thing is that most people want something shiny and heavily "branded". So in the ears of normal people Alienware or Mac sounds like Ferrari. Thats why they buy them without second tough.
Here, in my country we have one proverb: "На брашното евтин, на триците скъп." or "Cheap flour, bran expensive."
Its a way to say that most people don`t realize what they missing | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Professional x64 sp1 CPU Intel® Core™ i5-3550@4100Mhz Motherboard ASRock Z77 Pro 4 Memory 2x4GB A-Data DDR3-1800MHz @Dual Channel Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5570 (1024 MB) (Redwood) Sound Card Realtek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Toshiba 32HL833 [32" S-IPS FULL LED] Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Multimedia Keyboard Mouse GXT 14 Gaming Mouse PSU Seasonic S12 II Bronze SS-620GB Case FOXCONN TP-841 Hard Drives WD5000AAKX| WD5000AVVS| WD10EADS Internet Speed 100Mbps Other Info + ASUS DRW-1814BLT
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#3 | | Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 |
^True. But unlike Ferrari's where they are REALLY worth it, PC Builde brands are not. Basicaly, the only thing that you buy from them are the caseb because that's the only one they make themselves. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus G73SW-XN2 OS Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 CPU Intel Core i7-2630QM@2GHz(2.9GHz Turbo Boost) [Sandy Bridge] Motherboard Asus G73SW (Intel HM65 Chipset) Memory Kingston DDR3 1333 16GB (4GBx4) Graphics Card nVidia GTX 460m 1.5GB Sound Card EAX Advanced HD 5.0, THX TruStudio Monitor(s) Displays 17.3 in. primary & 23 in. secondary Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Built-in 102-Key Backlit Keyboard Hard Drives Seagate Momentus XT (SATA II) 500 GB @ 7200 RPM
Hitachi (SATA II) 500GB @ 7200 RPM
Non Raid because ASUS was crappy to choose an HM65 Chipset Other Info It's a Laptop. |
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With something like an Alienware, you pay more because
1). You want warranty support from a manufacturer on the system as a whole
2). You want your system prebuilt and ready for you..(some don't enjoy assembling it)
3). You want the operating system installed and licensed.
4). You know that the parts are compatible and will work together, if not, you get it replaced.
5). You are willing to pay more for the unique case
Machines like this aren't always a ripoff. Let's say that buying from Alienware costs you $800 more. Let's say you are a lawyer and charge $200 per hour. So, unless you can spec it and build it in under 4 hours, it might be best to buy it prebuilt and charge a client for 4 hours of work instead. Everything is relative. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
Also, with this reasoning, they are ripping you off even more. You are quoting prices you can get the parts at retail. They no doubt get them wholesale in bulk, and pay much, much less. Of course there is professional assembly (and labor cost), OS installation and configuration, burn in testing, and warranty coverage as mentioned.
Also, a lot of people would not even attempt to assemble their own PC. So ripoff is too strong, but almost always you can assemble a PC yourself cheaper then purchasing, and get exactly the parts you want, and the satisfaction. A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera |
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Peterborough, England |
It's horses for courses really.
I wouldn't dream of building my own car because I wouldn't be saving that much money and I'd wasting a heck of a lot of my valuable time putting it together with no sort of guarantee if things went wrong.
My current computer was bought off the shelf from a reputable reseller, it came with a free three-year pick up and return warranty and was a case of switch on and start computing right away. It has an i7 CPU, good graphics and plenty of RAM and cost me under £1000, so to try and build the same machine with all the problems I might meet along the way makes it a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned.
I had a problem with it recently, but all it took was one phone call to have the computer picked up, repaired and returned the next day - I can live with that. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |
Not everyone are PC geeks like many of us here.
I mean, most of us here can ospend an entire day building and tweaking on a new build.
Then another few days tweaking (OCing) and bench testing etc. and simply have a blast doing it, and even talking about it.
But theres a large amount who simply want it to work the instant they get it home and press the power button.
They just want Facebook & YouTube ASAP and maybe Twitter about thier new PC.
The large majority of the time, they only know its a PC, without a clue whats inside. Most likely could care less either. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
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#8 | | Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 |
^...and those kinds of user would have no need for Alienware at the first place | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus G73SW-XN2 OS Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 CPU Intel Core i7-2630QM@2GHz(2.9GHz Turbo Boost) [Sandy Bridge] Motherboard Asus G73SW (Intel HM65 Chipset) Memory Kingston DDR3 1333 16GB (4GBx4) Graphics Card nVidia GTX 460m 1.5GB Sound Card EAX Advanced HD 5.0, THX TruStudio Monitor(s) Displays 17.3 in. primary & 23 in. secondary Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Built-in 102-Key Backlit Keyboard Hard Drives Seagate Momentus XT (SATA II) 500 GB @ 7200 RPM
Hitachi (SATA II) 500GB @ 7200 RPM
Non Raid because ASUS was crappy to choose an HM65 Chipset Other Info It's a Laptop. |
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate RTM x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 With something like an Alienware, you pay more because
1). You want warranty support from a manufacturer on the system as a whole
2). You want your system prebuilt and ready for you..(some don't enjoy assembling it)
3). You want the operating system installed and licensed.
4). You know that the parts are compatible and will work together, if not, you get it replaced.
5). You are willing to pay more for the unique case
Machines like this aren't always a ripoff. Let's say that buying from Alienware costs you $800 more. Let's say you are a lawyer and charge $200 per hour. So, unless you can spec it and build it in under 4 hours, it might be best to buy it prebuilt and charge a client for 4 hours of work instead. Everything is relative. I agree. Finding parts that work together can be a real pain sometimes. I spent a whole day making the perfect supercomputer (specs are listed in my system specs). It would have been done much sooner if I wasn't on a tight budget  (I already had the keyboard, mouse, PSU, and GPU)
I can also say that with Alienware, you don't have to worry about DOA parts (which are a pain as well  )
However, I don't believe all of their cases are unique. Some are just generic Cooler Masters.
Last edited by longhorn; 15 Aug 2011 at 10:05 PM..
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#10 | | |
The Alienware brand exists because there is a market for it. It may be small, hence the exorbitant prices, but people are happy to pay for it.
Not me however.
I splurged on a $3.4k Clevo Sager gaming laptop. That's with a $250 laptop 'backpack' that has more pockets than Mohammed has followers. Same spec Alienware, I was nudging 5k - and that didn't include the 'megabag'. (seriously, this bag is more impressive than the laptop  )
You're paying for the brand. It's the same deal with Apple. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Systems by SmartEyeball OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
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