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Windows 7: 2012 Conspiracies..

29 Sep 2011   #61
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

Whew - in that case I'll try and relax.
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29 Sep 2011   #62
bigmck

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kronckew View Post
well, since christ was actually born in 4 or 5 b.c. (the calendar guy got the year wrong)
Would this be Bill Gates who couldn't make the computers show BC on the calendar?
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29 Sep 2011   #63
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kronckew View Post
well, since christ was actually born in 4 or 5 b.c. (the calendar guy got the year wrong), it is actually now 2015 or 2016 a.d., so this is all moot as it's past already.
I don't believe that God marks time by man's calendar.
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29 Sep 2011   #64
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

I don't think anyone really knows what year it is anyway. The current year ranges from the Bahá'í calendar year of 167 to the Byzantine calendar year of 7520. It's only by International agreement on the Gregorian calendar that we are now in 2011. And that didn't even exist until 1582. That calendar took almost 200 years to adopt around the World. There were so many adjustments to the days over the years that for all we know, the Maya equivalent of 12/21/2012 could have passed last February. Or even 500 years ago.
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29 Sep 2011   #65
seekermeister

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I seriously doubt that the Mayans expressed dates in the fashion that we do. I would imagine that someone converted it to work with the current calendar.
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29 Sep 2011   #66
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
I seriously doubt that the Mayans expressed dates in the fashion that we do. I would imagine that someone converted it to work with the current calendar.
Exactly! That's why I said the "equivalent of".
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29 Sep 2011   #67
seekermeister

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Perhaps I misunderstood, but it sounded as though you were discounting the credibility of the date 12/21/2011 as being the actual date corresponding to the Mayan calendar. What I was saying is that it probably is correct.
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29 Sep 2011   #68
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

I agree. I'm not arguing with you. It may be correct. Just as it may not be because scientist are using the current standard of time and looking back. Before the 16th century, there was no agreement even on how many days were in a year or how many months for that matter. There really wasn't even "months" on the Maya calendar. Their symbols for time dealt with seasons--Hours and days didn't exist except by perception. I'm just saying that the measure of time over the last 3,000+ years has not been constant. Before that, there was daylight and dark. The only way we've been able to correlate periods is because someone scratched star arrangements on a rock. Time is a very "modern" conception in the history of Earth.
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29 Sep 2011   #69
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

The Mayans expressed time in cycles. Not BC and AC.

To them, time was just a repeating cycle of events. And history repeated itself over and over.


Cycles were days, seasons, eclipse cycles etc.

Their calendars were quite complex and tracked many things. Even the 9 month cycle of preganacy.
Its quite interesting how it worked. Wheels within wheels ... counting down, everything.


Dec. 2012 date is a rough estimate on the part of science.
They basically figured out what the cycles were, how they work, and how long it takes.

So to figure out when the event at the end of the Long count happens, they have to figure out what the actual start date of the Mayan calander is.


Which, is a bit wierd.
Because if we they off on the start date, that throws the entire Mayan calandar off.
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29 Sep 2011   #70
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz View Post
...the measure of time over the last 3,000+ years has not been constant. Before that, there was daylight and dark...
After that, too.

At least so far...
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