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       #81

    The ancient world had a keen awareness of time, and they were aware of the change in the annual time changes, even though they didn't know what the cause was. It should also be noted that it can't be taken for granted that all ancient civilizations were equally ignorant of this aspect of the nature of earthly behavior. Too often we forget that the history of human knowledge is recorded for only the one recognized as our forerunners.

    EDIT: Despite the fact that they believe that the celestial bodies were the ones revolving around the Earth, rather than the opposite, the perspective of time would still have been the same.
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       #82

    Hold on a minute - you mean to tell me that the earth revolves around the sun?

    Ignore my previous predictions - I got me some recalculating to do.
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       #83

    Actually, Aristarchus proposed the theory that Earth revolved around the Sun about 260 BC. Ptolemy proposed the same around 140 AD, but you're right. It wasn't until the time of Copernicus, about 1400 years later, that the theory was revived and accepted. But that wouldn't have made a difference in the observed solar and lunar cycles. Egypt had a solar-lunar calendar around 2,000 BC.
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       #84

    I feel much younger now after all this talk about the multitude of centuries.
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       #85

    I don't feel any younger, but it does tend to put life into perspective.
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       #86

    carwiz said:
    Actually, Aristarchus proposed the theory that Earth revolved around the Sun about 260 BC. Ptolemy proposed the same around 140 AD, but you're right. It wasn't until the time of Copernicus, about 1400 years later, that the theory was revived and accepted. But that wouldn't have made a difference in the observed solar and lunar cycles. Egypt had a solar-lunar calendar around 2,000 BC.
    One theorist earlier than those:

    Philolaus (4th century BC) was also one of the first to hypothesize movement of the Earth
    Copernican heliocentrism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Last edited by seekermeister; 02 Oct 2011 at 05:23.
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       #87

    It seems appropriate to insert that the Hebrew calendar year is 5769, which indicates how long that they have been calculating time via the lunar cycles. This represents their calculation of time since Adam and Eve (or perhaps more accurately, the amount of time since time began, since time is a human concept).
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       #88

    I remember in the mid 1950's seeing the first picture of the curviture of the Earth. They sent a rocket up and it was able to take a picture of just a small arc of the Earth, probably 30 or 40 degrees. This was supposedly the proof that the Earth was round. How things have changed in such a short time. I can turn on my TV and the Dish Network has a station where you can see the entire Earth.
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       #89

    seekermeister said:
    carwiz said:
    Actually, Aristarchus proposed the theory that Earth revolved around the Sun about 260 BC. Ptolemy proposed the same around 140 AD, but you're right. It wasn't until the time of Copernicus, about 1400 years later, that the theory was revived and accepted. But that wouldn't have made a difference in the observed solar and lunar cycles. Egypt had a solar-lunar calendar around 2,000 BC.
    One theorist earlier than those:

    Philolaus (4th century BC) was also one of the first to hypothesize movement of the Earth
    Copernican heliocentrism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    That's questionable but not unproven. His movement of the Earth idea was based on a broader scale--Think Milky Way. He grouped the known planets and the Sun together on their movement and not specifically that the Earth revolved around our Sun. At the time, our Solar System was the known Universe so he was indeed ahead of his time.
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       #90

    carwiz said:
    That's questionable but not unproven. His movement of the Earth idea was based on a broader scale--Think Milky Way. He grouped the known planets and the Sun together on their movement and not specifically that the Earth revolved around our Sun. At the time, our Solar System was the known Universe so he was indeed ahead of his time.
    I am still upset that Pluto isn't a planet anymore.
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