| Windows 7: Why I've Finally given up on smart phones |
27 Nov 2011
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#1 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
Why I've Finally given up on smart phones Hi all
I'm not against new technology -- far from it -- but I,ve finally had it up to the Eyeballs with Smart Phones and have gone back to a basic phone and am MUCH MUCH happier with it.
My problem with smart phones
1) -there are these ZILLIONS of apps which are almost impossible to install without going through some convoluted process "Logon to the Android store" -- which then means having to create a Google account ---- No thankyou Google --you've got enough info out there anyway --why can't I just download the wretched thing like buying Windows or other software.
2) You invariably run into cryptic errors like --This Phone is not linked to the account ???? why on earth should it be -- Why can't I just download the app like any other piece of software -- pay for it if it's a commecial version and then install it on the phone later at my convenience. In any case the computer or device I'm downloading the software from doesn't have to be the one you install on. -- I've often downloaded software on one device - including various versions of Windows -- and installed / licensed / activated the product on another device.
For example I downloaded MS office 2010 suite 64 bit from MS using my Work's Internet server (legally) and installed on my private laptop.
3) No quaity control so some of these apps are nothing more than 100% rubbish -- but the amount of time spent on checking out if there IS anything wothwhile out there is horrendous --to say nothing of possible Viruses etc.
4) I'm sick of the batteries running out almost daily before needing to be re-charged.
5) I haven't a clue on what background processes are running -- I'm sure there are some services like Weather etc which are continually chalking up small fees on the account without my knowlege.
The final straw was when I thought I'd use the phone as a music player -- with a 16 GB memory card in it this was I thought a No brainer.
So most of the music players don't give you a chance to browse and play music in FOLDERS / DIRECTORIES --they seem to make you have to create "playlists" / track / album / artist, I can't be bothered with all of that --I have my stuff simply ordered in directories.
I found Winamp but to get folder play I had to go "pro" -- i.e pay.
Unfortunately it only worked until the phone screen went dark --after that it stuttered ever few seconds.
Now there IS an update --but to get the update seems to require the updated base install to be installed -- again the endless loop of "Phone Not registered to the android app store -- of course it's not it's a NEW PHONE bought in a DIFFERENT COUNTRY (Belgium in this case).
I've further looked and it would appear that one would have to pay for the PRO upgrade again.
Anyway I've just had enough and have gone back to an "Ipod like" music player --works fine -- no probs,
I don't like texting / tweeting / facebooking and the small screens of these phones for me isn't a viable Internet option -- to me a Phone will remain a PHONE.
I'm also an Independent contractor and not a "Wage slave" so I don't need or want to be continually checking e-mails on a phone. In any case the small screens aren't really suitable for long emails anyway.
I did give it a serious try but this is ONE piece of technology that I'm letting pass me by.
I've since given the android phone away to a younger nephew who will probably have a far better use for it than me.
Cheers
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27 Nov 2011
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#2 | | Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit) Mumbai, India |
I have used both iPhone and Androids and I m happy with the way both OS works. Sad to hear it did not work out for you. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Samsung NP530U4B-S02IN OS Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit) CPU Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 2467M (1.60GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) Motherboard Samsung Electronics Memory 6GB DDR3 System Memory at 1,333MHz (on BD 4GB + 2GB x 1) Graphics Card AMD Radeon™ HD7550M 1GB DDR3 (Ext. Graphic) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 35.56cm (14.0) SuperBright 300nit HD LED Display Screen Resolution 1366x768 Hard Drives 1TB S-ATA II Hard Drive (5400RPM) with ExpressCache 16GB SSD Internet Speed sucks Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome (Sync enabled) |
27 Nov 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
I'm kind of with you Jimbo. I don't really need a phone to take pics, watch TV, browse the net, talk to me, send text, etc. Basically I want to talk to people anywhere I am. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
27 Nov 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium Evansville, WI |
I have an android, made a dummy gmail account to tie into the app store, I text a little, use the email some, and haven't had a single problem.
If you're not going to do any email, internet, or texting, then there was no real reason to have that kind of phone in the first place.
Viruses on phones are not an issue as of yet. AVG and others insist on using antivirus on your phone as a form of scaring people. All it does is hog resources unneedingly. All it takes is a little bit of reading at the reviews, and what people say about the app to get a good feel if it is worth it or not. It's no different than trying a program on the pc, ya don't just go blindly downloading stuff hoping it works.
Apps in the background, almost all have settings that you can change so it doesn't "update" info all the time and kill your battery. I have enough on my phone and I have about 80% battery left at the end of the day. The only thing I don't like about smartphones is how dumb and lazy they are making people. Everyone wants an app to do everything for them.
Example: I'm part of an android forum, and one person actually wanted an app/widget on his screen that he could tap to shut the screen off........he was too lazy to press the button on the top of the phone. He insisted that it shouldn't take more than a finger to shut off the screen. There's a hard button on top, which, to him was too much, meaning he actually had to grab the phone and push the button.
Things were so much simpler before everyone had a pc and a phone and a gadget for every damn thing. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite L455D OS Windows 7 Home Premium CPU Amd Semperon 2.10GHz Memory 2 Gig Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3100 Sound Card Realtek Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 inch Screen Resolution 1366x768 Mouse Logitech Wireless Hard Drives 250gig Internet Speed 16/2 cable |
27 Nov 2011
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#5 | | Vista Ult64, Win7600 Dublin |

Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 Hi all
I'm not against new technology -- far from it -- but I,ve finally had it up to the Eyeballs with Smart Phones and have gone back to a basic phone and am MUCH MUCH happier with it.
My problem with smart phones
1) -there are these ZILLIONS of apps which are almost impossible to install without going through some convoluted process "Logon to the Android store" -- which then means having to create a Google account ---- No thankyou Google --you've got enough info out there anyway --why can't I just download the wretched thing like buying Windows or other software.
2) You invariably run into cryptic errors like --This Phone is not linked to the account ???? why on earth should it be -- Why can't I just download the app like any other piece of software -- pay for it if it's a commecial version and then install it on the phone later at my convenience. In any case the computer or device I'm downloading the software from doesn't have to be the one you install on. -- I've often downloaded software on one device - including various versions of Windows -- and installed / licensed / activated the product on another device.
For example I downloaded MS office 2010 suite 64 bit from MS using my Work's Internet server (legally) and installed on my private laptop.
3) No quaity control so some of these apps are nothing more than 100% rubbish -- but the amount of time spent on checking out if there IS anything wothwhile out there is horrendous --to say nothing of possible Viruses etc.
4) I'm sick of the batteries running out almost daily before needing to be re-charged.
5) I haven't a clue on what background processes are running -- I'm sure there are some services like Weather etc which are continually chalking up small fees on the account without my knowlege.
The final straw was when I thought I'd use the phone as a music player -- with a 16 GB memory card in it this was I thought a No brainer.
So most of the music players don't give you a chance to browse and play music in FOLDERS / DIRECTORIES --they seem to make you have to create "playlists" / track / album / artist, I can't be bothered with all of that --I have my stuff simply ordered in directories.
I found Winamp but to get folder play I had to go "pro" -- i.e pay.
Unfortunately it only worked until the phone screen went dark --after that it stuttered ever few seconds.
Now there IS an update --but to get the update seems to require the updated base install to be installed -- again the endless loop of "Phone Not registered to the android app store -- of course it's not it's a NEW PHONE bought in a DIFFERENT COUNTRY (Belgium in this case).
I've further looked and it would appear that one would have to pay for the PRO upgrade again.
Anyway I've just had enough and have gone back to an "Ipod like" music player --works fine -- no probs,
I don't like texting / tweeting / facebooking and the small screens of these phones for me isn't a viable Internet option -- to me a Phone will remain a PHONE.
I'm also an Independent contractor and not a "Wage slave" so I don't need or want to be continually checking e-mails on a phone. In any case the small screens aren't really suitable for long emails anyway.
I did give it a serious try but this is ONE piece of technology that I'm letting pass me by.
I've since given the android phone away to a younger nephew who will probably have a far better use for it than me.
Cheers
jimbo And your point is? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Build 64bit OS Vista Ult64, Win7600 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2400 MHz 64bit OS Motherboard Asus P5E3 Deluxe WiFi @p 64 bit OS Memory 4096 MB DDR3-SDRAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 3870 Series x2 Crossfired Sound Card Realtek on board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster - 23 inches Screen Resolution 1680x1050 pixels at 60 Hz in True Colors Keyboard Wireless Mouse Wireless PSU Cooler Master 1000w Case Cooler Master Cosmos 1000. Cooling Fans and fresh air, Hard Drives Hitachi (250 GB)/Samsung 750 GB. /Barracuda 160 GB.
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27 Nov 2011
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#6 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Yeah, Android is a zoo. The apps are not verfied for anything and the OS is held together with rubber bands and band aids. I think the iPhone is in a much more controlled environment. But then you are on the Apple island. Hard to have it both ways. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
28 Nov 2011
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#7 | | |
I'm with jimbo, just another means to get targeted by adverts that I don't want and until the battery life of these devices approaches the weeks region that I think necessary I won't be buying one. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq desktop OS Windows 7 x64 SP1 CPU Athlon II x2 215 Memory 4.0 GB Graphics Card Onboard Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium HD (nice) Monitor(s) Displays 24" Dell LCD Screen Resolution 1900 x 1200 Keyboard USB Mouse USB PSU 430w Hard Drives 320 GB, 500 GB and 750 GB 7200 rpm Internet Speed approx 10 Mbps |
28 Nov 2011
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#8 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 1) -there are these ZILLIONS of apps which are almost impossible to install without going through some convoluted process "Logon to the Android store" -- which then means having to create a Google account ---- No thankyou Google --you've got enough info out there anyway --why can't I just download the wretched thing like buying Windows or other software. Yeah, a droid phone is going to require the Google account and the iPhone is going to require the Apple account. I don't have any hangups with having the Google account as I use gmail and I have a personal home domain that I run for my family so we each have our own email addresses and shared calendars...so I can just create a dummy account within that google apps account. 
Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 2) You invariably run into cryptic errors like --This Phone is not linked to the account ???? why on earth should it be -- Why can't I just download the app like any other piece of software -- pay for it if it's a commecial version and then install it on the phone later at my convenience. Hmmm..I haven't had these problems either with my Droid or with my wifes iPhone. 
Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 3) No quaity control so some of these apps are nothing more than 100% rubbish -- This is more so a problem with the Droid marketplace, as the itunes store is more heavily restricted. 
Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 4) I'm sick of the batteries running out almost daily before needing to be re-charged. Yes, with more power and performance comes less battery life. I have a media doc for my droid and it's just habit that when i come home from work, I just drop the phone into it and charge it overnight. What does bug me is when I am out of town and actively using my phone during a day that it will go dead...and I don't carry my charger cord around with me everywhere I go. 
Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 5) I haven't a clue on what background processes are running -- I'm sure there are some services like Weather etc which are continually chalking up small fees on the account without my knowlege. The droid has functionality that shows you what is chewing up the battery. I've never had an app generating a fee. 
Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 So most of the music players don't give you a chance to browse and play music in FOLDERS / DIRECTORIES --they seem to make you have to create "playlists" / track / album / artist, I can't be bothered with all of that --I have my stuff simply ordered in directories. While I keep my music separated in directories for organizational purposes, everything that i ripped is tagged with id3 tags and such which is what these devices use to organize themselves. Personally, i need the tagging and such for the PC software that I use to playback the music (media monkey). So, it's no extra time when I xfer the track to my MP3 player or my phone, as it's properly tagged already. 
Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 I don't like texting / tweeting / facebooking and the small screens of these phones for me isn't a viable Internet option -- to me a Phone will remain a PHONE. I have to carry a phone for work, which of course work pays for. I need it to check email and such, and get server alerts. I use it for email, facebook and such...but only when I don't have access to a computer and I have time to kill. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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28 Nov 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1 Houston, Texas |
I saw a sitcom on TV a couple weeks ago. == The guy's wife would always wanted him to check in with her when he was out doing something. He got an app and put it on his wife's phone. When ever he called her it went straight to voicemail without the phone ringing. That way he could leave a message to satisfy her but not have to talk to her. -- Man I need one of those
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29 Nov 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
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