| Windows 7: Sony does not care about their customers |
15 Dec 2011
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#1 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Sony does not care about their customers Before you buy a Sony product, you may want to read my story.
I bought an $1100 Vaio laptop from them. At first there were problems with it and they sent a tachnician to the house to exchange the motherboard. That was good service.
But the first time I wanted to run a live CD (which runs under Linux), there was no way to operate that program because the cursor was frozen. I tried a few other live CDs with the same result.
Hours of calling Sony and they finally agreed to look at it in their service center in Laredo, Tx. They sent me a prepaid box and I sent it in. I included 2 live CDs for testing - the Macrium recovery CD and the Partition Wizard bootable CD.
Today I get a call from one of their technicians telling me that this model (VPCF1390X) was not designed to run Linux and that the system runs as specified. He did, however, try my CDs on other Sony models where they worked. Of course nobody told me that before I dished out the $1100.
Then I called their customer care center asking to exchange the bit. They gave me a flat NO and told me that they could do nothing for me. I asked to escalate the problem but the person on the line insisted that she was the highest escalation level.
Now I am stuck with a $1100 piece of junk. | My System Specs |
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15 Dec 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Rockville, Maryland USA |
WHS, Reading the specifications for the VPCF1390X of course does not talk about other operating systems except windows 7.
Looks like you have a good windows 7 machine.
I don't remember many of the OEM's outside of Dell offering any of their computers where they offer Linux or other operating systems.
I think your too hard on Sony when you should have talked to them before you bought it.
I recommend you give it to one of your family as they probably won't want to install linux.
Rich | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Laptop Qosimo X870 OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7 Motherboard Toshiba Memory 16 Gigs Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M Monitor(s) Displays 17.7" laptop Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Hard Drives 256 Gig SanDisk SSD for C
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15 Dec 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional Eagle River, AK |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs Of course nobody told me that before I dished out the $1100. Did you think to ask? Honestly, I do feel your pain but, I can't see how this is Sony's fault.
On a side, Sony hasn't been very Linux friendly in the past. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 400 OS Windows 7 X64 Professional CPU Intel® Pentium D Dual Core 3.6GHZ Motherboard DELL Dimension 9150 MotherBoard DXP051 XPS400 FJ030 Memory 4GB DDR2 PC2-5300 Graphics Card GeForce GT 440 (Fermi) 2GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Sound Card ASUS XONAR DG 5.1 Channels PCI Interface Xonar DG Monitor(s) Displays 2 X 23" Apple Cinema Display Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200p Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Keyboard Mouse Logitech M705 Marathon PSU 375 Watt Dell Case Dell XPS 400 BTX Case Cooling Dell XPS 400 Air Cooling Hard Drives 250GB Intel® 510 Series SSD SATA 6G (w/TRIM) [500MB/s Reads]
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15 Dec 2011
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#4 | | Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit Grafton,IL |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs Today I get a call from one of their technicians telling me that this model (VPCF1390X) was not designed to run Linux and that the system runs as specified. He did, however, try my CDs on other Sony models where they worked. Of course nobody told me that before I dished out the $1100. If they don't work on Sony that really suxs...but then why the above result I highlighted in red?
It does not make sense to me but what do I know. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hopalong/ Godzilla OS Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit CPU Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Motherboard ASUS P7P55D-E PRO Memory 8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 Sound Card VIA Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Asus VS248H-P 24"; Samsung SyncMaster 941BW 19"ws Screen Resolution 1920x1080; 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech K-320 Mouse Kensington PSU COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W Modular Case COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Cooling Scythe "Mugen-2 Rev.B" (2 ScytheKaze-Jyuni PWM fans) Hard Drives Samsung 830 120GB SSD
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15 Dec 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
WHS can they atleast give you a OEM copy and you can reformat and try for yourself ?
Seriously it is a computer just like all the others why wouldn't it run Multiple OS it has the same parts as any other machine that will do Multiples
I'm thinking they didn't want to bother with you cause that is flat out nonsense
When a customer is not happy with a product and it is brought to attention in a short amount of time is nonsense /They are supposed to refund you and Exchange for something that fits your needs
I would go as far as to write a letter and Explain to them there product didn't give detail features that they should not everyone know's this information they told you
To me it is BS honestly ,I would call back and Imediatly talk to a manager and get names numbers and start writting Sony directly to someone that is much Higher then Tech support level | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
15 Dec 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |

Quote: Originally Posted by bug67 
Quote: Originally Posted by whs Of course nobody told me that before I dished out the $1100. Did you think to ask? Honestly, I do feel your pain but, I can't see how this is Sony's fault.
On a side, Sony hasn't been very Linux friendly in the past.
Why should he have to ask they should list everything and I DO MEAN EVERYTHING it will it won't do they just Joshed him out of 1100 bucks because there sony and they can give a rats turd about customer service cause there that big
I worked in customer service for 12 years the customer is always right it was just some lazy worker that didnt want to follow the process of fixing his situation | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
15 Dec 2011
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#7 | | Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit Grafton,IL |
+1 Solarstar
You aren't installing an OS. Just running a CD.
Sounds like a CD player/driver problem possibly. It won't recognize the Linux.
OP's have problems all the time of not recognizing CD brands or DVD's etc. Bluray players with no Bluray. Just a thought. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hopalong/ Godzilla OS Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit CPU Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Motherboard ASUS P7P55D-E PRO Memory 8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 Sound Card VIA Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Asus VS248H-P 24"; Samsung SyncMaster 941BW 19"ws Screen Resolution 1920x1080; 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech K-320 Mouse Kensington PSU COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W Modular Case COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Cooling Scythe "Mugen-2 Rev.B" (2 ScytheKaze-Jyuni PWM fans) Hard Drives Samsung 830 120GB SSD
Intel 320 120GB SSD
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15 Dec 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit Virginia |
Is it Sony's fault that you bought a computer that cannot run Linux? No.
Is it their fault that you are upset? Yes.
Should they allow you to make an exchange? Yes.
Would I, after reading your review, buy a Sony? No. I probably would not anyways, but after reading this, definitely no. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba P775-S7100 OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2450M @2.5 GHz Memory 6 GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Monitor(s) Displays Built-in 17.3" LED; 22" Insignia NS-L22Q-10A Screen Resolution 1600x900; 1360x768 Hard Drives 750 GB Hitachi
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15 Dec 2011
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#10 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by richnrockville WHS, Reading the specifications for the VPCF1390X of course does not talk about other operating systems except windows 7.
Looks like you have a good windows 7 machine.
I don't remember many of the OEM's outside of Dell offering any of their computers where they offer Linux or other operating systems.
I think your too hard on Sony when you should have talked to them before you bought it.
I recommend you give it to one of your family as they probably won't want to install linux.
Rich I am not trying to install Linux. I am just trying to run live CDs - e.g. the Macrium image recovery CD or the Partition Wizard bootable CD. Else I cannot recover from an image or do certain things on the disk. I am trying the WAIK version now, but have problems with the Macrium site. Can't win. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 Sony does not care about their customers problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:28 PM. | |