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Windows 7 - Addiction? |
01-22-2012
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#1 | | 2 x Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 & Mac OS X Snow Leopard x32/x64 & Linux Mint 9 Isadora x64 |
Addiction? My Logitech M570 Trackball started to have problems on the left button after some hot chocolate spilled on it.
Then I started to use my Logitech Trackman Marble.
I thought it would be allright since I had used that Trackman Marble a long time before I got the M570.
Things weren't as I expected. I couldn't get used to the USB Cable as I had to move the Trackman wherever I moved my notebook. There was no wheel. It was really hard. I was telling myself that I wouldn't have time to use the computer in a week or two so I thought I would be ok without buying another wireless trackball. It wasn't possible. After a couple of days, with spending a part of a very important money, I bought another M570. I couldn't find another choice. There were good mice maybe but I am so used to stable base. Actually, at the store, or even at the internet I haven't seen any other choice of a wireless trackball as M570 so I got myself a second M570. Logitech Customer Service can be pretty nice actually sometimes, you can get the same or newer item even after a couple of years or more without paying extra; but I knew that I needed that trackball today. I went to the store on a Sunday (I don't drive and public transportation is so much less on Sundays and I am out of the city) and I bought it. After I got it, I opened the box and told the 'trackball' that "I missed you so much!" several times. I realized that I told the same words to a girlfriend who came from Europe for Christmas and New Year. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G72 Notebook OS 2 x Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 & Mac OS X Snow Leopard x32/x64 & Linux Mint 9 Isadora x64 CPU Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 2.53 GHz Memory 6GB (3 x 2 GB) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M Sound Card EAX Advanced HD 4.0 + Logitech Wireless Headset G930 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 & Logitech Trackman Marble Cooling Targus Hard Drives 2 x Seagate Momentus 500 GB 5400.6 SATA 3Gb/s Internal *
Seagate GoFlex Desk 3 TB USB 3.0 External *
WD My Book Essential 2 TB USB 3.0 External *
Seagate Expansion 2 TB USB 2.0 External *
Toshiba Canvio Plus 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable External Internet Speed 20 Mbps Download / 1 Mbps Upload Other Info Roadrunner *
Comodo Internet Security Premium *
Startech 34/54 & Renesas USB 3.0 54 2 Port Express Card *
Logitech C310 Webcam *
D-Link DIR-615 Wireless Router |
01-22-2012
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#2 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
I have 2 similar ones, but without the 2 extra buttons on the left. What do those do. I could not operate without it both on the desktop and on the laptops. They are both wired, but that does not bother me.
On the desktop I still have a mouse where I covered the optical eye for my left hand. I am used to operate the clickers with the left hand because I used keyboards with scrollballs for years. But now I needed a backlit keyboard and those do not come with a scrollball. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
01-22-2012
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#3 | | 2 x Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 & Mac OS X Snow Leopard x32/x64 & Linux Mint 9 Isadora x64 |
You can configure those two buttons with Logitech software. I am using as back and forward.
The wire bothers me because I am usually moving the notebook side to side.
It helps when there is no wire so when I put the notebook on the chair or coffee table, I don't have to move the trackball.
Backlit keyboard is another addiction of mine now. If a notebook does not have it, I wouldn't buy it. I remember not buying a Sony because of that.
Scrollball is a good option, but I am moving my computer (and its accessories) more than a couple times a year so desktop is not a good option for me at this point.
There are much more choices for mice than the trackballs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G72 Notebook OS 2 x Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 & Mac OS X Snow Leopard x32/x64 & Linux Mint 9 Isadora x64 CPU Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 2.53 GHz Memory 6GB (3 x 2 GB) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M Sound Card EAX Advanced HD 4.0 + Logitech Wireless Headset G930 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 & Logitech Trackman Marble Cooling Targus Hard Drives 2 x Seagate Momentus 500 GB 5400.6 SATA 3Gb/s Internal *
Seagate GoFlex Desk 3 TB USB 3.0 External *
WD My Book Essential 2 TB USB 3.0 External *
Seagate Expansion 2 TB USB 2.0 External *
Toshiba Canvio Plus 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable External Internet Speed 20 Mbps Download / 1 Mbps Upload Other Info Roadrunner *
Comodo Internet Security Premium *
Startech 34/54 & Renesas USB 3.0 54 2 Port Express Card *
Logitech C310 Webcam *
D-Link DIR-615 Wireless Router |
01-22-2012
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#4 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
I had a Sony laptop with a backlit keyboard. It was a very nice laptop with a HD screen, an i7, a good 1GB graphics card and all the bells and whistles. I really liked it - except their BIOS microprogram was really retarded. You could no run live Linux CDs because it would freeze the cursor, there was no way to set the boot sequence. It had an eSata port, but no way to boot from eSata because of the retarded BIOS. And there was also no way to set the Sata to AHCI - maybe it was set that way by default, but nobody at Sony knew.
So I returned it and got my money back (after I wrote a letter to the Sony CEO) and got a Toshiba that was $500 cheaper and is nearly as good. I am only missing the eSata port and the HD screen. It does, however, have a USB3 port. But the keyboard is backlit and you can make the various settings in the BIOS whilst in the Sony you had to hack the registry in order to get the keyboard to stay lit. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
01-22-2012
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#5 | | 2 x Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 & Mac OS X Snow Leopard x32/x64 & Linux Mint 9 Isadora x64 |
I know what you mean about Sony. I heard similar complaints.
The Sony I was talking about was on sale at a good price at that time, therefore I considered it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G72 Notebook OS 2 x Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 & Mac OS X Snow Leopard x32/x64 & Linux Mint 9 Isadora x64 CPU Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 2.53 GHz Memory 6GB (3 x 2 GB) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M Sound Card EAX Advanced HD 4.0 + Logitech Wireless Headset G930 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 & Logitech Trackman Marble Cooling Targus Hard Drives 2 x Seagate Momentus 500 GB 5400.6 SATA 3Gb/s Internal *
Seagate GoFlex Desk 3 TB USB 3.0 External *
WD My Book Essential 2 TB USB 3.0 External *
Seagate Expansion 2 TB USB 2.0 External *
Toshiba Canvio Plus 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable External Internet Speed 20 Mbps Download / 1 Mbps Upload Other Info Roadrunner *
Comodo Internet Security Premium *
Startech 34/54 & Renesas USB 3.0 54 2 Port Express Card *
Logitech C310 Webcam *
D-Link DIR-615 Wireless Router |
01-22-2012
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#6 | | |
All this may be true but no mouse is complete if the wheel can't freewheel. Once you choose either ratcheted style or freewheel and you scroll top to bottom and back of a huge document with one spin......you're hooked. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD 965 Phenom II X4 3.4 BE, OC'd stable at 4.1 Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory 16 gb G. Skill Z Series 2133 DDR3 9-10-9-28 @ 1866 Graphics Card (2) Crossfired MSI R5770 Hawk's OC'd Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via hdmi/d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Cooling 15 case fans w/speed control,Corsair H100 in P/P, gpu fans Hard Drives (2) 128 gb Crucial m4 SSD drive sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Seagate Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Seagate Freeagent go's/usb
(1) 80 gb Seagate Barracuda/sata
(1) 64 gb Crucial C300 Internet Speed Some where between the worst and bearable Other Info 3 Noctua fans + 4 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Ultra 2.5 dual hot swap drive bays for SSD's
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Ultra MD3 media reader, IO ports & fan controller
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
01-22-2012
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#7 | | 2 x Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 & Mac OS X Snow Leopard x32/x64 & Linux Mint 9 Isadora x64 |
If you are addicted to trackballs which have a stable base, it is hard to use a mouse for a long periods again.
As I mentioned before, mice have much more options than trackballs.
Today, I was at the store, and if those mice at the store had a stable base such a trackball, I would have bought one to try, but as a trackball, the option was M570 only. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G72 Notebook OS 2 x Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 & Mac OS X Snow Leopard x32/x64 & Linux Mint 9 Isadora x64 CPU Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 2.53 GHz Memory 6GB (3 x 2 GB) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M Sound Card EAX Advanced HD 4.0 + Logitech Wireless Headset G930 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 & Logitech Trackman Marble Cooling Targus Hard Drives 2 x Seagate Momentus 500 GB 5400.6 SATA 3Gb/s Internal *
Seagate GoFlex Desk 3 TB USB 3.0 External *
WD My Book Essential 2 TB USB 3.0 External *
Seagate Expansion 2 TB USB 2.0 External *
Toshiba Canvio Plus 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable External Internet Speed 20 Mbps Download / 1 Mbps Upload Other Info Roadrunner *
Comodo Internet Security Premium *
Startech 34/54 & Renesas USB 3.0 54 2 Port Express Card *
Logitech C310 Webcam *
D-Link DIR-615 Wireless Router |
01-23-2012
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#8 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
IMAyNeed,
I'm curious, because I'm using Logitech Cordless Wheel Trackman mice on both of my PCs. For the most part, I like them very much, at least more so than wired mice. It looks as though the M570 is an updated version of them. At least as far as the programmable buttons go, but I'm wondering if you have ever used the older version like mine? The part that I like least about them is that they only hold 1 AA battery, so the time between battery changes is not as long as I would like, and worse is the fact that the battery warning doesn't work, so you don't know the charge state, until it goes dead, which unless you have an extra battery standing by, you have to wait for the battery to recharge. Does the M570 share these problems? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
01-23-2012
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#9 | | 2 x Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 & Mac OS X Snow Leopard x32/x64 & Linux Mint 9 Isadora x64 |
I haven't used the older version. M570's hold 1 AA battery too. The time advertised for battery change is 18 months. At the worst, it will go at least 9 months. At least, my first one did. M570's doesn't charge the battery in anyway. You have to put another battery or recharge the battery in your own battery charger. The long time for M570's can come from its wireless technology. I believe the cordless trackman was using the optical technology or radio technology. Therefore, maybe it was using more energy than wireless. I am not sure. As you said, M570's are an updated model, with 2 extra buttons and using wireless instead of optical. And also instead of a big receiver, there is just a small USB plug, which you can also use for other Logitech products if you have. There is also a battery warning, which shows how many days it will last. On my first day, it is showing 548 days. Therefore, M570 does not have those problems. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G72 Notebook OS 2 x Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 & Mac OS X Snow Leopard x32/x64 & Linux Mint 9 Isadora x64 CPU Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 2.53 GHz Memory 6GB (3 x 2 GB) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M Sound Card EAX Advanced HD 4.0 + Logitech Wireless Headset G930 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 & Logitech Trackman Marble Cooling Targus Hard Drives 2 x Seagate Momentus 500 GB 5400.6 SATA 3Gb/s Internal *
Seagate GoFlex Desk 3 TB USB 3.0 External *
WD My Book Essential 2 TB USB 3.0 External *
Seagate Expansion 2 TB USB 2.0 External *
Toshiba Canvio Plus 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable External Internet Speed 20 Mbps Download / 1 Mbps Upload Other Info Roadrunner *
Comodo Internet Security Premium *
Startech 34/54 & Renesas USB 3.0 54 2 Port Express Card *
Logitech C310 Webcam *
D-Link DIR-615 Wireless Router |
01-23-2012
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#10 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
Yes, I do have to recharge my batteries separately, which really isn't so bad with 15 minute rechargeables, but even that can be very annoying when they die in the middle of some functions. That day counter sounds very good, so I now know what my next upgrade will be. Thanks. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
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