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Windows 7: Do you believe in aliens?

View Poll Results: Do you believe in aliens?
Yes 71 81.61%
No 16 18.39%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

08 Feb 2012   #131
Everlong

 

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Based on the poll results, Most SF Members believe in aliens, (reasonably).
You believe in something that you have never seen...

Perhaps you are among some who now won't be so quick to judge others who do the same

We believe in something that has happened elsewhere just as it's happened on our own planet.


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The link that I posted should be ample explanation of what I said. If it isn't, then it would be pointless for me to try to explain further. Either accept it or don't...you choice.
My logic is fine, but for you, I'll put it in to a much simpler reasoning:

1) I can't see any fish where I'm stood in the ocean
2) Therefore, fish don't exist in the ocean

Is this deductive conclusion a fair conclusion? I've not studied the rest of the ocean, yet I've arrived at a conclusion just from the small area of the ocean that I am in.

Or how about this:

I have a 100 sided dice. The probability of rolling a 1 is 1 in 100, or 1% chance. After a few rolls I eventually roll a 1. I've now proved it's possible to roll a 1, despite only that 1% chance. If I roll the dice again I'm certain I could roll another 1.
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08 Feb 2012   #132
MRValiant

Windows 8 Pro
 
 

There are a few aliens among us on this forum. You just have to know where to look.
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08 Feb 2012   #133
Arc

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Why do you feel that using many words to weave a simple thought is necessary?
Not always, but sometimes! It depends.
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Is that just to express yourself, or to try to convolute the the question to make it more complicated to answer?
Complication is an idea that differs.
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Whatever your purpose the end result is that you have repeated what has already been said. The words may differ, but the ideas are the same.
So it is clear, I hope.

Life is nothing but permutation and combination of various elements. Elements are formed in the stars . Stars are almost evenly spread in the galaxies, and galaxies are almost evenly spread in the space. The possibility of life is mere, but it cannot be nullified, as it exists.
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08 Feb 2012   #134
pincushion

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

In line with many of the comments about the existence of things that without us looking (with the aid of science) we would be unaware of e.g. communication between dolphins and

Tiny primate 'talks' in ultrasound

Rather clever little creatures eh?

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08 Feb 2012   #135
DustSailor

Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Everlong View Post
1) I can't see any fish where I'm stood in the ocean
2) Therefore, fish don't exist in the ocean

Is this deductive conclusion a fair conclusion? I've not studied the rest of the ocean, yet I've arrived at a conclusion just from the small area of the ocean that I am in.

Or how about this:

I have a 100 sided dice. The probability of rolling a 1 is 1 in 100, or 1% chance. After a few rolls I eventually roll a 1. I've now proved it's possible to roll a 1, despite only that 1% chance. If I roll the dice again I'm certain I could roll another 1.
Hey Everlong! I hope you don't take anything I say as my attempt at bashing, I mean it just for arguement's sake (and I realize I am butting in once again) -

At this moment, I am not trying to prove or disprove that aliens exist, but I do so love to argue.

Saying there aren't any fish in the ocean because you can't see them is absurd, I know. But claiming that there are fish in the ocean when you've never seen any is also absurd, because this theory has not been proven. This is the classic deductive vs inductive reasonings. Deductive reasoning claims there is a good chance and that it is reasonable to believe, and inductive reasoning says not to claim anything without a complete list of straight facts. So to claim there are fish in the ocean may make sence based on the sheer number of word of mouth people who have seen them, so it is reasonable to deduce that there are indeed fish in the ocean (though always the best way to find out is to search for them yourself, as the 'masses' often get things wrong too).

Likewise, saying aliens are a 1 in 100 chance may not be accurate. Keep in mind, though many believe in aliens, this does not mean they exist, nor does it mean they don't. There may even be a 0% chance that aliens exist (none), so a dice roll wouldn't even matter in this case!

I myself am surprised in the poll. I grew up where people would straight make fun of you for believing in aliens, though I guess we were just kids at the time. There is no reason to make fun of anyone for what they believe, just because it differs from what you believe.

Hope we can keep these arguements going, but civil! I'm getting good at this devil's advocate thing.
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08 Feb 2012   #136
Shadowjk

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 ; Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard
 
 

I think other life forms exist somewhere but not as advanced as (Bacteria level) and Not the typical green large eyed alien
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08 Feb 2012   #137
Arc

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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Well said, Josh !
The shape of a creature depends on the environment in which it lives, due to the process of evolution . If the size of earth had been like Jupiter, we might have been much shorter and stronger , due to it's gravity .
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08 Feb 2012   #138
Shadowjk

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 ; Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard
 
 

+1 to that Arc!! Ohh and congrats on SF Team haven't been online in a while and just noticed
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08 Feb 2012   #139
Arc

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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Thanks a lot, mate
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08 Feb 2012   #140
manhunter2826

Windows XP - Now Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit).
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MRValiant View Post
There are a few aliens among us on this forum. You just have to know where to look.
lol. go on -- name names !!! j/k
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