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Windows 7: Do you believe in aliens?

View Poll Results: Do you believe in aliens?
Yes 71 81.61%
No 16 18.39%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

07 Feb 2012   #51
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Selfish is the wrong word, because there is only ONE master of the universe, and He doesn't live on some alien foreign planet.
I know. He lives in Castle Grey Skull, for his name is He-Man.
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07 Feb 2012   #52
JaidynM

Windows 7 Ultimate x64/Windows 8 Consumer Preview x64/Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
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I'll tell you one thing about the universe, though. The universe is a pretty big place. It's bigger than anything anyone has ever dreamed of before. So if it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space. Right?
from one of my favourite movies, Contact.

if you're a bit of a geek, i reckon you'll enjoy the movie too...
+1

That sounds about right.
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07 Feb 2012   #53
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Surely there is other life in the vast cosmos. A Guy
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07 Feb 2012   #54
pincushion

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

If humans didn't exist on this planet and aliens visited then they would see that intelligent life did actually exist since if it didn't then all these existing lifeforms would have died out long ago. The other ape species are not that far behind us and other species show varying levels of intelligence. Our brains, our hands and our mouths seem to have been the making of us - the mouths part also being the undoing of so many unfortunately - and in my case my typing fingers!

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07 Feb 2012   #55
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pincushion View Post
If humans didn't exist on this planet and aliens visited then they would see that intelligent life did actually exist since if it didn't then all these existing lifeforms would have died out long ago. The other ape species are not that far behind us and other species show varying levels of intelligence. Our brains, our hands and our mouths seem to have been the making of us - the mouths part also being the undoing of so many unfortunately - and in my case my typing fingers!

Brains, hands, mouth...they all work in unison either for the better or the worse. The theme and tempo of this thread is proof of how they can work for the worse...especially the brain. However, I don't hold anyone in particular responsible for their state of being, it would be difficult to be otherwise, considering the social and educational environment that they were raised in. If one doesn't like or respect the state of affairs, the only solution is to change it, but that doesn't necessarily mean changing the world, only themselves.
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07 Feb 2012   #56
Influx

Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1 / WCP x64 / Ubuntu 11 x64
 
 

Would like to ask the users who answered no, why?
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07 Feb 2012   #57
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Of course, my answer is obvious, but I can't explain why without violating forum rules. Even if I were to limit my explanations to logic, that would take much more time and space than is practical for this thread.

EDIT: It would be easier to go the reverse...most people who believe in aliens, do so with the logic that the vastness of the universe requires life on other planets just by citing the odds. Of course using the odds requires that one accept the fact that the universe and everything in it was created by the chaos of chance. Therefore, if one planet with intelligent life exists, there must be more. This mindset is not without an element of logic, but logic ultimately requires all elements to fit together into one seamless picture.

Without going into detail, I will say that the logic behind this concept falls apart at multiple points. However, those that tenaciously adhere to this concept, shrug off those gaps either by believing that they don't exist, or that they will be filled by some future knowledge or theory. I believe the reason for this is that if they did see the faults, that it would require them to look to different ideas that they either reject or are uncomfortable with.
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07 Feb 2012   #58
pincushion

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

Here are a couple of links that might seem appropriate -

Astrobiology: We are the Aliens | Life, Unbounded, Scientific American Blog Network

Project Icarus: The Interstellar Communication Problem : Discovery News

Seekermeister: Brains, hands and mouths (speech) seem to have developed independently and can be seen in action to varying degrees in many species - we are just the species that got lucky - in my opinion.

The few million years it has taken man to become 'top dog' is miniscule compared with the age of the universe so I think we should be a bit humble with our claims to knowledge and understanding.

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07 Feb 2012   #59
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JaidynM View Post
Sure. I believe that the universe is too big for us to be the only life forms but wouldn't say that they're the stereotypical alien that looks like this:



That picture I might add is of a real alien that came and settled on Earth called Brink.
With you J on this done if the universe is infinite ( I also do not believe in the big bang) then I have always thought while there are doubles of us on this planet then why not on some planet that will never be known about.

Now the big bang if things are moving away from us then can someone then explain why things are moving towards us - even going past us?
Now simple (as I am) logic tells me that the matter contained in the universe could not have come from nothing - it's a nonsense.
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07 Feb 2012   #60
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pincushion View Post
Here are a couple of links that might seem appropriate -

Astrobiology: We are the Aliens | Life, Unbounded, Scientific American Blog Network

Project Icarus: The Interstellar Communication Problem : Discovery News

Seekermeister: Brains, hands and mouths (speech) seem to have developed independently and can be seen in action to varying degrees in many species - we are just the species that got lucky - in my opinion.

The few million years it has taken man to become 'top dog' is miniscule compared with the age of the universe so I think we should be a bit humble with our claims to knowledge and understanding.

If everyone were as "humble" in their opinions are you have been, we would be having a debate in this thread, that soon would be locked or removed.
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