tell me if im crazy :P -solder on gpu-

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Aww Yiss!
ill cut right to the place, i mean chase ;)

i have a acer 5253 laptop amd fusion e350 with 6310 built in.

It sucks basically :3

i opened up the laptop and there is a space next to the cpu just waiting for a amd radeon 6470m (was an option when i bought) to be soldered onto. The acer driver page has 6470 drivers. so if i got a 6470m chip and soldered all the metal connectors together would it work?


CRAZY I KNOW :picnic:
 

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Highly unlikely. For starters, the soldering is done by a very precise machine. You will not be able to meet that precision, and more than likely will short out some contact points or damage something.

After that, the motherboard may have a different ROM installed that won't recognize the GPU chip even if it is installed. The ROM can only be loaded at the factory, and may require replacing a motherboard chip.

Not to mention that you probably wouldn't be able to get the chip in the first place, except maybe by scavenging another board. In which case you would have to try to detach the solder, which is not designed to be possible.
 

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ah ok :P told you im crazy xD
 

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I will call it as an option if it comes with ready chip socket installed (just like CPU). And a clear guideline provided by its manual. Go further without those stuffs, it certainly will make you call yourself crazy. :p

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I will call it as an option if it comes with ready chip socket installed (just like CPU). And a clear guideline provided by its manual. Go further without those stuffs, it certainly will make you call yourself crazy. :p

Kevin

haha but like futurdreamz said, i probably wont be able to get the 6470m chip anyway.
 

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Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080
Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games):
300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!!
ucrazy:cool:, I think it would be very hard to do.
 

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ROFL :roflmao:
 

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Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games):
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Ok here is more in depth.

My laptop motherboard.

Yellow is the slot for the 6470m (note it has little silver dots for the gpu to connect to
Green is the South bridge chip.
Red is the CPU+GPU.

on the acer website there is drivers for 6470m for my exact model. so a new bios to compensate for the new gpu would not be needed would it?
 

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First of all, how do you plan on soldering it on? There's no room under the GPU to stick the solder gun
 

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Don't they reflow (bake) those things on in a reflow station?
 

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You would also need more then just the GPU to be soldered. There is a lot of additional supporting circuity and discreet devices you would have to add. Several empty pads next to the GPU pad for example.
 

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Just to clarify, it's the graphics and not the CPU that sucks right?

AMD has better integrated graphics then Intel, but Intel's processors are a bit better than AMD's
 

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Don't they reflow (bake) those things on in a reflow station?

YESH that is what i was planning if i could get a 6470m
 

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Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080
Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games):
300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!!
If it ain't broke why fix it? Laptops aren't built for extreme graphics.
 

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You would also need more then just the GPU to be soldered. There is a lot of additional supporting circuity and discreet devices you would have to add. Several empty pads next to the GPU pad for example.

Yep.

There are two empty space on the left side, it's for planting memory chips to support planted GPU. GPU itself only have speed processor that need to be backed up by certain amount of dedicated memory. ;)

Dealing with double sided PCB no soldering can be done manually.

Kevin
 

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Can't be done outside the factory, I guarantee. Lead free solder does not flow easily. Other devices on the board would move, it has disaster written all over it ;)

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Don't they reflow (bake) those things on in a reflow station?

YESH that is what i was planning if i could get a 6470m

It'd be pretty difficult. Iirc the solder is in the form of tiny beads/pins that are held in place between the mobo and chip. There's virtually no way for you to get the little beads in place for melting. Additionally the tiniest nudge (or even uneven heating) could move other components, causing the soldier on any component to flow around and short.

The main thing is getting the chip itself. These kind of chips are not released to consumers, so your best bet would be to get a board with the gpu already soldered on. Removing the gpu would be impossible, as it is incredibly difficult to get the mobo to the right temperature, and lift the gpu off perfectly so the solder won't smear. Then I highly doubt you can reuse the solder, or remove it without damaging the gpu.
 

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I think these people underestimate the power of Kiwi ingenuity ;)

In my opinion, if you want it that bad, go for it.
As it turns out, you may not even need to solder it. If there are already little bumps there, I dont see why you couldnt just get the chip in place and clamp it down like theres no tomorrow. As long as the contacts on the board contact in the right places on the chip.
If you suspect there may be some film over the bumps, then an idea may be to give it a quick one or two over with some 800-1200grit paper.

If it works, you got yourself some bragging rights :D
If it doesnt work, you should of listened to everyone else :p
Either way will be interesting.

...reminds me of that one time I desoldered a 20pin ATX connector, then attached a 24pin PSU adapter on the underside to hide it from view. It worked :)
 

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