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Windows 7: Abomination. Do you think this of Windows 8 too?

28 Jul 2013   #11
strollin

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No self-proclaimed windows expert is going to convince me that Windows 8 isn't the best of both worlds. For those that like the Start screen, with it's tiles and "modern" apps they can choose to use that, for those like me that prefer the traditional desktop, a single click is all that is required (and even that is eliminated with 8.1). Some people may even prefer to stay in the middle using what they like from both interfaces.

I personally don't miss or need the Start button and don't understand why someone that is familiar with windows would still require it as there are many different ways to provide it's functionality. With desktop shortcuts, quick launch, items pinned to the Task bar, tool bars, application folders, etc... windows itself provides many different avenues to supplant the Start button. For those that need more than what is provided by windows itself, there are quite a few 3rd party apps like Classic Shell or Stardock.

IMO, there are way too many people whining about Win 8 given the fact that it is not significantly different from Win 7. I feel the hatred for it is totally unfounded.It's flexible enough to run with either a touchscreen interface or the traditional desktop we are all familiar with, so what's the problem?
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28 Jul 2013   #12
Kari

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It is an absurd notion that we PC users will like Metro Desktop and no Start Menu/All Programs.
Absurd? I would like to say it's genius! I like the thinking behind Windows 8 concept: A flexible easy to customize Start Screen with adjustable tiles for everything I need, in an order I want to instead of clumsy Start Menu with alphabetical order where I need to dig deep to find what I need. If Microsoft had brought the traditional Start Menu back in Windows 8.1 that had been the first feature for me to disable.
Tiles are better? Heck, I even hate icons, let alone tiles! I feel they eat up too much room and are harder to scan horizontally than a simple, vertical list. I set most of my folders to list view to get rid of the stupid things (picture folders being the only exception).

I also feel the start menus is much easier to use than a bunch of multi-sized, clunky tiles taking up more than an entire screen. I have no trouble drilling down to what I'm looking for in the Start Menu since it's a concise, easy to read list, even for my old, trifocal assisted eyes. Alphabetical order has worked just fine for me all my life.

The Win 8 UI is ideal for phones and tablets but PCs and all but the tiniest laptops? I don't think so.
Everybody has right to an opinion, you as well as I.

I do not like touch screen, using it only on mobile phones but never on computers, yet the UI of Windows 8 and especially 8.1 is to me so easy and flexible to use both on laptops and desktops alike with a good scroll mouse and keyboard, that I find myself constantly wondering why it took so long for Microsoft to introduce this clever system on Windows.

My PC usage has become clearly faster and better organized since I moved over to Windows 8.

Kari
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28 Jul 2013   #13
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

If Windows 8 or now 8.1 would allow Transparency and windows snap it would be getting better reviews,
I've never used 8 or 8.1 so I could be mistaken about the above missing,
I believe as most that the Metro screen is fairly ugly and does not show much imagination,
I wouldn't say that about Windows 8/ 8.1 in general but the appearance is what Microsoft is selling.
Winning or Loosing ?
I can say I haven't taken the plunge yet so with that I would say Microsoft has not won the sell test yet
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28 Jul 2013   #14
Lady Fitzgerald

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If Windows 8 or now 8.1 would allow Transparency and windows snap it would be getting better reviews...
Besides the Start Menu (which can be replaced but why bother when Win 7 itself works just fine), AeroSnap and AeroPeek are the features I would miss most. I can't help but wonder if Win 8's increased speed comes from the features that were stripped when they were making Win 8.
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28 Jul 2013   #15
Kari

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If Windows 8 or now 8.1 would allow Transparency and windows snap it would be getting better reviews...
Besides the Start Menu (which can be replaced but why bother when Win 7 itself works just fine), AeroSnap and AeroPeek are the features I would miss most. I can't help but wonder if Win 8's increased speed comes from the features that were stripped when they were making Win 8.
I wonder where you get your information? Quite honestly I have not very much respect for opinions based on rumors, clear misunderstandings or information solely without personal experience like "I think I have heard...".

For those users now thinking not to test Windows 8 or 8.1 based on the wrong information about these two vital features of Windows: I like and use both AeroPeek(*) and AeroSnap(*) constantly on my Windows 8 and 8.1 rigs. Both features exist natively on Windows 8.

(*) = Not sure if the name of these features still is AeroPeek and AeroSnap, but the features themselves work on Windows 8 exactly as on Windows 7.

Kari
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28 Jul 2013   #16
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

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If Windows 8 or now 8.1 would allow Transparency and windows snap it would be getting better reviews...
Besides the Start Menu (which can be replaced but why bother when Win 7 itself works just fine), AeroSnap and AeroPeek are the features I would miss most. I can't help but wonder if Win 8's increased speed comes from the features that were stripped when they were making Win 8.
I wonder where you get your information? Quite honestly I have not very much respect for opinions based on rumors, clear misunderstandings or information solely without personal experience like "I think I have heard...".

For those users now thinking not to test Windows 8 or 8.1 based on the wrong information about these two vital features of Windows: I like and use both AeroPeek(*) and AeroSnap(*) constantly on my Windows 8 and 8.1 rigs. Both features exist natively on Windows 8.

(*) = Not sure if the name of these features still is AeroPeek and AeroSnap, but the features themselves work on Windows 8 exactly as on Windows 7.

Kari
I sure as heck couldn't find them on machines I tried.
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28 Jul 2013   #17
Dude

Windows 10 Pro X64
 
 

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Besides the Start Menu (which can be replaced but why bother when Win 7 itself works just fine), AeroSnap and AeroPeek are the features I would miss most. I can't help but wonder if Win 8's increased speed comes from the features that were stripped when they were making Win 8.
I wonder where you get your information? Quite honestly I have not very much respect for opinions based on rumors, clear misunderstandings or information solely without personal experience like "I think I have heard...".

For those users now thinking not to test Windows 8 or 8.1 based on the wrong information about these two vital features of Windows: I like and use both AeroPeek(*) and AeroSnap(*) constantly on my Windows 8 and 8.1 rigs. Both features exist natively on Windows 8.

(*) = Not sure if the name of these features still is AeroPeek and AeroSnap, but the features themselves work on Windows 8 exactly as on Windows 7.

Kari
I sure as heck couldn't find them on machines I tried.
Have a look here

Aero Isn’t Gone in Windows 8: 6 Aero Features You Can Still Use
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28 Jul 2013   #18
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Post a tutorial of such features,
Beside Transparency is part of Windows glass and it's what makes Icons/ apps clear so you can see your Desktop background something people would rather see and Not a bunch of colored blocks.

Thanks Dude now that's helpful and confirms my likes of windows 7 is gone.
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28 Jul 2013   #19
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Funny that all three machines I tried to them on didn't have it.
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28 Jul 2013   #20
strollin

W10 Pro desktop, W10 laptop, W10 laptop, W10 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Post a tutorial of such features,
Beside Transparency is part of Windows glass and it's what makes Icons/ apps clear so you can see your Desktop background something people would rather see and Not a bunch of colored blocks.

Thanks Dude now that's helpful and confirms my likes of windows 7 is gone.
I've never understood why anyone would want to see the desktop. Instead of transparent icons, I hide all the icons on the desktop and don't even use a wallpaper because I spend exactly zero amount of my time looking at the desktop. I use Aerosnap and Aeropeek on my Win 8 machine and the ability to preview the desktop is there (off by default) but I have no use for that.

It's interesting that people that haven't even tried Win 8 can be so opposed to it.
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