So what do you think of Lance Armstrong?

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  1. Posts : 2,171
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       #81

    I understand the leeway that can come with fame but think it's a lousy analogy. Armstrong only harmed himself (he may have "cheated", wasn't "fair" or whatever but did no true harm to others). MJ, on the other hand, did (allegedly).

    And weren't those young "groupies" around 6 or 7 years old or so?
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       #82

    My feeling about Armstrong is I could create a web site claiming he is a Martian, and some people would agree with me even though there is no proof. I would just have to make claims, selective quotes, etc.
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       #83

    F5ing said:
    I understand the leeway that can come with fame but think it's a lousy analogy. Armstrong only harmed himself (he may have "cheated", wasn't "fair" or whatever but did no true harm to others). MJ, on the other hand, did (allegedly).

    And weren't those young "groupies" around 6 or 7 years old or so?
    'harm to others', what, apart from depriving them of perhaps legitimate wins?

    Never heard anything like that young for groupies, but they were definitely underage.

    :)
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       #84

    JimJoe said:
    My feeling about Armstrong is I could create a web site claiming he is a Martian, and some people would agree with me even though there is no proof. I would just have to make claims, selective quotes, etc.
    Could be said about anyone but there are libel laws and defamation of character to protect people against malicious slander. It is true that it is becoming increasingly difficult to enforce though - one of the 'benefits' of our modern communications age. Armstrong is not defending himself.

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  5. Posts : 4,549
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       #85

    Its very sad to me that, his career has ended on such a sour note, after all he had accomplished with his foundation.
    ( his personal life is a total mess. )
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       #86

    LADYPINKtomato1 said:
    Its very sad to me that, his career has ended on such a sour note, after all he had accomplished with his foundation.
    ( his personal life is a total mess. )
    Not exactly a total mess. He still has all of his money, his health and a good life ahead of him..........Yea, I would swap with him.
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       #87

    Mack .. you make very good points.. however he has to look himself in the face daily..unless he's a real oger..
    that will still be hard to let go of ..I read where he dropped off the foundation he began, that also is a sad.. he had accomplished so much good there.
    MONEY is important as it helps us all to survive, but it won't buy us happiness that last ,where struggling with honesty will help us to grow into much better people,mature and knowing right from wrong, living it in our daily lives, if we use it right .
    Just my opinion dear.:) Having and sharing a well rounded life is a joy to behold.
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       #88

    Its not over until the Fat Lady sings but she is getting dressed for the performance. The ICU will give their ruling before Oct 31 and can accept the findings or appeal them. If they accept them then its up to the Tour de France to strip the titles. The TDF has stated that they would vacate the titles and would have no winner for those 7 years if it comes to that.

    Jim
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       #89

    pincushion said:
    JimJoe said:
    My feeling about Armstrong is I could create a web site claiming he is a Martian, and some people would agree with me even though there is no proof. I would just have to make claims, selective quotes, etc.
    Could be said about anyone but there are libel laws and defamation of character to protect people against malicious slander. It is true that it is becoming increasingly difficult to enforce though - one of the 'benefits' of our modern communications age. Armstrong is not defending himself.

    If someone claimed it was satire that he was a Martian, they probably could get away with it.
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  10. Posts : 472
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       #90

    JimJoe said:
    pincushion said:
    JimJoe said:
    My feeling about Armstrong is I could create a web site claiming he is a Martian, and some people would agree with me even though there is no proof. I would just have to make claims, selective quotes, etc.
    Could be said about anyone but there are libel laws and defamation of character to protect people against malicious slander. It is true that it is becoming increasingly difficult to enforce though - one of the 'benefits' of our modern communications age. Armstrong is not defending himself.

    If someone claimed it was satire that he was a Martian, they probably could get away with it.
    Yes, I believe Snake Oil salesmen depend upon there being a sufficient number of gullible people in the world - and history proves them correct in this belief. It often takes skill and experience to sift the dirt for the truth.

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