So what do you think of Lance Armstrong?

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I've been reading up on Lance, and in my opinion he's guilty of doping/drugging. But he shouldn't just keep lying about it for his image, and trying to come off as a saint. Lance should come clean.
 

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Lance should come clean.

He is already.

lol.. I knew that was coming.


It just goes to show you how relentless people become trying to prove a point

They wasted money beyond money to do this plus that Money was tax payers money

Not to mention Lance grew tired of this and his money was being Exhausted trying to prove his innocence so in the end they deemed him guilty based on he didn't want to go broke over this

When people have the money and power to do things and make things happen this is what you get

He is still an American Hero and people already know he wasn't guilty

Can't wait till another 10 years down the line there gonna say Phelps Usin Bolt all took performance enhancing drugs to break records such rubbish
 

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What I do not understand is they take a test after each race so why was he not found out then
 

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To embarrassed to tell lol
What I do not understand is they take a test after each race so why was he not found out then
With perfomance enhancing drugs the drug testers are always playing catch up, as newer and undetectable drugs are being made. They don't know what to look for so they can only test for what they know is out there. They cannot test for some new drug until it becomes known to them and then they can test for it when they know what to look for.

I have no opinion about whether he did or not.
 

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What I do not understand is they take a test after each race so why was he not found out then
With perfomance enhancing drugs the drug testers are always playing catch up, as newer and undetectable drugs are being made. They don't know what to look for so they can only test for what they know is out there. They cannot test for some new drug until it becomes known to them and then they can test for it when they know what to look for.

I have no opinion about whether he did or not.
They should Drug test the whole Panel that brought this on
and see what their results are i bet half of them are sniffers meaning coke heads
 

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How Armstrong Could 'Get Away With Stuff With Everybody Looking' | Playbook | Wired.com

I think the weight of evidence is that he did take drugs even though he never tested positive for any. That others also were taking drugs should be taken into account but it is a very grey area since those who did take drugs were effectively taking places from those who didn't. How many were actually 'clean' though. When a memorial tribute is established for 'Armstrong' I hope those in the future know which one it was - a rather modest explorer and hero and the first human to set foot on an extra-terrestrial object - not the other one.

:( :shock: :rolleyes:
 
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Some folks probably still believe in the Easter Bunny. Here's a good little article:

Being OK as a fraud

"If you believe there is an infinitesimal chance that Armstrong could captain a cycling team that incorporated systematic doping for most of a decade, never take a needle himself, and for seven years bike faster than all of his dope-aided teammates, go ahead and believe that too."
 

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What I do not understand is they take a test after each race so why was he not found out then
With perfomance enhancing drugs the drug testers are always playing catch up, as newer and undetectable drugs are being made. They don't know what to look for so they can only test for what they know is out there. They cannot test for some new drug until it becomes known to them and then they can test for it when they know what to look for.

I have no opinion about whether he did or not.

Ah thanks I never thought of that, well I also have no opinion on the subject as I never followed him anyway :D
 

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To embarrassed to tell lol
Didn't know he was under question - theses days I'd be as equally surprised to see if his guilty, or it's a back stab attempt at tarnishing his reputation.
 

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What I do not understand is they take a test after each race so why was he not found out then
That is an excellent point. The whole story is very strange.
 

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What I do not understand is they take a test after each race so why was he not found out then
That is an excellent point. The whole story is very strange.

Well, it goes back to what BrightBlessings said in post #6, and then some.

Remember the ex track star Marion Jones? She boasted that she passed all of her drug tests too. Things are not always as they seem.
 

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Right, that's what makes these stories so strange. They have all those procedures to test for drugs and still there seems to be no accurate results. In Lance's case where they now say that this went on for nearly 10 years, it makes the whole story even more obscure.
 

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Right, that's what makes these stories so strange. They have all those procedures to test for drugs and still there seems to be no accurate results. In Lance's case where they now say that this went on for nearly 10 years, it makes the whole story even more obscure.

There are accurate results, and athletes do fail tests. Lance was good at not getting caught, perhaps due to his meticulous nature. He was also well protected. And if he did get caught, payoffs could be made, things could be shuffled. There were incidences where this allegedly happened. Corruption is not unknown in the sports world, especially when a brand (Lance) is at stake. I know it all seems weird on the surface. Let's just say, the more I read about Lance Armstrong, the less I like.
 

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Hoppy It,s the Americans who want to strip him of his titles, Not the french :D
 

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United States Anti-Doping Agency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) is a non-profit, non-governmental[1] organization and the national anti-doping organization (NADO) for the United States. The organization has control of the anti-doping programs for U.S. Olympic, Paralympic, Pan-American and ParaPan American sport. Its work includes in-competition and out-of-competition testing, the results management and adjudication process, the provision of drug reference resources, the therapeutic-use exemption process, various scientific research initiatives, and athlete and outreach education. USADA is headquartered in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
USADA is a signatory to, and responsible for implementation in the United States of, the World Anti-Doping Code, widely considered the basis for the strongest and strictest anti-doping programs in sports.[2][3] In 2001 the agency was recognized by the U.S. Congress as "the official anti-doping agency for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic sport in the United States."[4] USADA is not a government entity,

Well I'll be :zip:.

Guilty until proven innocent. Who needs the rule of law even here.

Tour people were jumping for joy I am sure.
 

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Tour people were jumping for joy I am sure
I don't think anybody was jumping for joy. It is just a sad story with a lot of question marks.
 

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Sadly the tour de france has been plagued by people using performance enhancers for nearly 110 years. It's just that the enhancers have evolved over the years as well as the bicycles and the competitors. Huge prize purses and egos and the desire to be lauded has permeated what we used to call sports. Sports is now nothing but big business. The press and the public put people on a pedestal and with great glee we love to watch them be knocked down. Tall poppy syndrome I think it is called. As I said earlier I have no opinion on the matter of guilt or innocence.
 

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Well, supposedly the USADA will be releasing evidence in the future. I'm interested if anything will come out about corroborating witness George Hincapie. He was Lance's right-hand man and 'best-bro' through all seven Tours wins. He is considered a credible and reluctant witness.
 

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