| Windows 7: Microsoft Services Agreement update |
02 Sep 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, SP1 |
Microsoft Services Agreement update Will anyone be so kind as to condense the email sent to us regarding the services agreement update ? Microsoft Service Agreement
In particular : what impacts to regular home users.
Thank you.
t-4-2 | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire 7741Z OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, SP1 CPU Intel Pentium P6200, Cores 2, 2.13 GHz Memory 4 GB Graphics Card Intel HD Sound Card unknown Monitor(s) Displays 17.3 inches Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Hard Drives 640 GB, 5400 PRM |
02 Sep 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
Well I didn't read the whole thing but it seams to me that Microsoft (M/S) in simple legal terms is trying to protect it self against people using their products without a legal contract. M/S also doesn't want anybody to use their products for illegal purposes. M/S also says it will disclose private information it has when asked through the proper legal channels.
To a home user to me it is simple. If you use your computer and Microsoft's products to do things that are not legal, they will help law enforcement if requested in the proper legal fashion. That would include stealing movies, music,programs and operating systems using u torrents and P2P or the like. If a home user allows someone else to use their computer with M/S programs to do such things you as the authorized owner and user of M/S programs are responsible for such actions.
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Put it simple for home user. Microsoft has the right to stop all illegal actions using their programs that they or other discover. That could include but not limited to removing the authorization code of all their programs too reporting to legal authorities with all need information private or otherwise. Kids this may put mom and dad in a very tough spot if your caught doing illegal things and its reported.
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To a business this idea can be tough. If said business has a authorized use of Windows Office and let say 100 computers stations. The business is accountable for the use of that M/S program in all 100 station. If one employee uses one station to set up a bank robbery M/S is not responsible the business is. Microsoft is not responsible if others use their product for illegal actions. If my understanding is correct I have no problem with it.
I'm not a lawyer nor do I have any legal training. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
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KLipsch-THX
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2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
02 Sep 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
It likely won't affect the end user that much, but 2 things are interesting: Quote: Finally, we have added a binding arbitration clause and class action waiver that affects how disputes with Microsoft will be resolved in the United States. And they can now share your data amongst all their services. How Microsoft’s Terms of Service changes impact your rights
By continuing to use their services after October 19th, you are in essence agreeing to these new terms. A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera |
03 Sep 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear Well I didn't read the whole thing but it seams to me that Microsoft (M/S) in simple legal terms is trying to protect it self against people using their products without a legal contract. M/S also doesn't want anybody to use their products for illegal purposes. M/S also says it will disclose private information it has when asked through the proper legal channels.
To a home user to me it is simple. If you use your computer and Microsoft's products to do things that are not legal, they will help law enforcement if requested in the proper legal fashion. That would include stealing movies, music,programs and operating systems using u torrents and P2P or the like. If a home user allows someone else to use their computer with M/S programs to do such things you as the authorized owner and user of M/S programs are responsible for such actions.
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Put it simple for home user. Microsoft has the right to stop all illegal actions using their programs that they or other discover. That could include but not limited to removing the authorization code of all their programs too reporting to legal authorities with all need information private or otherwise. Kids this may put mom and dad in a very tough spot if your caught doing illegal things and its reported.
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To a business this idea can be tough. If said business has a authorized use of Windows Office and let say 100 computers stations. The business is accountable for the use of that M/S program in all 100 station. If one employee uses one station to set up a bank robbery M/S is not responsible the business is. Microsoft is not responsible if others use their product for illegal actions. If my understanding is correct I have no problem with it.
I'm not a lawyer nor do I have any legal training. 
Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy It likely won't affect the end user that much, but 2 things are interesting: Quote: Finally, we have added a binding arbitration clause and class action waiver that affects how disputes with Microsoft will be resolved in the United States. And they can now share your data amongst all their services. How Microsoft’s Terms of Service changes impact your rights
By continuing to use their services after October 19th, you are in essence agreeing to these new terms. A Guy THank you to both.
t-4-2 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire 7741Z OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, SP1 CPU Intel Pentium P6200, Cores 2, 2.13 GHz Memory 4 GB Graphics Card Intel HD Sound Card unknown Monitor(s) Displays 17.3 inches Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Hard Drives 640 GB, 5400 PRM |
03 Sep 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy It likely won't affect the end user that much, but 2 things are interesting: Quote: Finally, we have added a binding arbitration clause and class action waiver that affects how disputes with Microsoft will be resolved in the United States. And they can now share your data amongst all their services. How Microsoft’s Terms of Service changes impact your rights
By continuing to use their services after October 19th, you are in essence agreeing to these new terms. A Guy Someone made a statement in another forum and it troubles me because of its authenticity issue.
The statement he made was ...............
as of Oct 19th the hotmail brand is going away.
and he posted this MS Service Agreement link..... Microsoft Services Agreement
I have read the aggreement which I received via email, and I had read the agreement I googled from the web..... Microsoft Services Agreement
I did not see anything that said" by Oct.19th, Hotmail s going away."
Can you confirm what that guy said ?
t-4-2 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire 7741Z OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, SP1 CPU Intel Pentium P6200, Cores 2, 2.13 GHz Memory 4 GB Graphics Card Intel HD Sound Card unknown Monitor(s) Displays 17.3 inches Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Hard Drives 640 GB, 5400 PRM |
04 Sep 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
I have yet to see anything that has said Hotmail is going away period. But I think it is widely assumed it will eventually, now that they have the outlook.com as a replacement. If you visit outlook.com and sign in using your Hotmail login info, it automatically switches it to an outlook.com interface. You can change it back, but they sure seem to be eager for you to change. A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera |
05 Sep 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
Remember all the screaming that was done when Windows 7 didn't come with Outlook Express. I was one of the screamers. Then they informed the public anybody can have O.E. for a price. Now they are begging us to take it for free or else. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
05 Sep 2012
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#8 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |
I miss Outlook and Outlook Express. Want to hear some more fairy tales? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
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06 Sep 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit In a house with a cat trying to kill me |
I also read something recently that they also added to the agreement that you forfeit the right to take part in a class action suit against them.... New Microsoft agreement: No class action suits for you | ZDNet Quote: Among the changes include every user's binding agreement to waive all rights to participate in class action lawsuits against Microsoft. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Hell oh Well OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz Memory Not much with my ADHD Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4350 Monitor(s) Displays I have one...It's bright. A 19 inch CRT actually. Keyboard It's 10 years old and amazingly still works Mouse Same deal with the mouse, 10 yrs old, if it ain't broke... Case Don't get on my case...man :D Cooling I have an Air Conditioner & Diet Pepsi Hard Drives 250 GB Main Drive, 2 - 1 TB Externals, various FD's. |
06 Sep 2012
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#10 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |
Depending on the laws where one lives, it's probably not enforceable. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB Internet Speed fair to middlin' Antivirus AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Browser IE9 Other Info LSI 9211-8i SATA III controller card (eight more SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Combo - 3 Ports USB 3.0 Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Combo Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Logitech 5.1 speaker system, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Microsoft Services Agreement update problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:31 AM. | |