Abomination. Do you think this of Windows 8 too?

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    Abomination. Do you think this of Windows 8 too?


    I will beat this drum until I get a developers response from Microsoft. It is an absurd notion that we PC users will like Metro Desktop and no Start Menu/All Programs. I am an expert with Windows since 2002. I am 58 years old. I connect to computers around the world for remote support (Independent). I think the rude and uncaring introduction of Windows 8 WITHOUT the START MENU and a direct boot to Windows Desktop is outrageous, if not an abomination of Windows OS.


    Microsoft! We all were weened on the simplicity of using the All Programs menu to send our shortcuts to the Desktop with EASE! We are able to access everything we need by clicking the Start Orb and using Search and accessing regedit, services.msc etc. We quickly access Documents, Pictures and can find every file, hidden, archived and read-only within seconds. So much more to say but I'm too hot under the collar and will curb the words I would really like to use.

    Do those of you reading this agree with me that Microsoft should give the hardcore PC user the OPTION to disable Metro and activate Start Menu/All Programs?
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  2. Posts : 7,466
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    You are kinda late on this ..........

    This is the opinion on WIN 8 Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for $39.99
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  3. Posts : 86
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    You're right but fortunately I'm still using Windows 8 Custoer Preview on a second HDD. I boot to it now and then to see if there are any Windows Updates that will "give us back" the items I mentioned above, not yet and maybe never.

    It's a good thing that Windows 7 will be around until 2020. I can truly see Windows 8 going belly-up like Windows Millenium.

    Touch screen users will adapt but not PC users who rely on fast mousing and just plain old familiarity with the rock solid navigation fundamentals of Windows since Windows 95.

    Thanks for the response.
    Last edited by MouseGolf; 26 May 2013 at 21:27.
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  4. Posts : 7,466
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    You said it best No-one that is a Mainstream PC user will like the Touch interface it is soley for tablet and smartphone users
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  5. Posts : 757
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    leeraypc said:
    It's a good thing that Windows 7 will be around until 2024. I can truly see Windows 8 going belly-up like Windows Millenium.
    Windows 7 end-of-support is January 14, 2020. Not 2024.

    Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Microsoft Windows
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    OvenMaster said:
    leeraypc said:
    It's a good thing that Windows 7 will be around until 2024. I can truly see Windows 8 going belly-up like Windows Millenium.
    Windows 7 end-of-support is January 14, 2020. Not 2024.

    Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Microsoft Windows
    Thanks for bring that up because I made a typo.

    Now we all wait and see what happens with Windows 8.1 upgrade which is free. Suppose to available this June 2013. I'm still a Windows 7 fan but will want to see if they make W8 PC friendly.
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  7. Posts : 86
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    I've already covered this in another post but to close out this topic 8.1 with it's faux start button that simply loads your favorite tiles again......well, that's just too funny!
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  8. Posts : 17,545
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    Although your original post seems to be quite old, I would like to make a few comments. You bringing this thread back to life gives me an opportunity to do that.

       Note
    In the future I would like to suggest you to post your Windows 8 opinions on our sister forums the Eight Forums as it suits the purpose better.


    SuperTweaker said:
    It is an absurd notion that we PC users will like Metro Desktop and no Start Menu/All Programs.
    Absurd? I would like to say it's genius! I like the thinking behind Windows 8 concept: A flexible easy to customize Start Screen with adjustable tiles for everything I need, in an order I want to instead of clumsy Start Menu with alphabetical order where I need to dig deep to find what I need. If Microsoft had brought the traditional Start Menu back in Windows 8.1 that had been the first feature for me to disable.

    SuperTweaker said:
    I am an expert with Windows since 2002. I am 58 years old. I connect to computers around the world for remote support (Independent).
    Not an expert as you, privately I have used every version of Windows. I mean every version, from Windows 1.0 which I got at Christmas 1985. At work, I have used and taught every version since Windows 3.0, writing my first instructional guides for Windows for Workgroups 3.11. I currently develop tailor made Windows 8 ToGo systems for small business.

    I connect to 15 to 30 remote Windows 7 and 8 computers on a daily basis.

    Windows 8 is the first Windows version you can carry in your pocket, ready to boot on almost every computer and that without any third party tools. Me, my colleagues and customers we have presented it usually like it very much.

    SuperTweaker said:
    I think the rude and uncaring introduction of Windows 8 WITHOUT the START MENU and a direct boot to Windows Desktop is outrageous, if not an abomination of Windows OS.
    Thank you Microsoft for giving me more flexibility in using Windows by replacing the awkward and out-of-date Start Menu with Start Screen, it makes accessing the programs and applications I need so much faster and simpler. As an old school Windows veteran I also like that you brought back the possibility to boot directly to the desktop for those who'd prefer it.

    SuperTweaker said:
    Microsoft! We all were weened on the simplicity of using the All Programs menu to send our shortcuts to the Desktop with EASE! We are able to access everything we need by clicking the Start Orb and using Search and accessing regedit, services.msc etc. We quickly access Documents, Pictures and can find every file, hidden, archived and read-only within seconds. So much more to say but I'm too hot under the collar and will curb the words I would really like to use.
    Please in the future when bashing Windows 8 and / or 8.1, do not include me in your "We all were weened..." and similar statements. Better even if you could completely avoid speaking on behalf of me and lot of other users who like the new Windows concept.

    Using Windows 8 and 8.1 I can find regedit, services.msc, access Documents, Pictures and can find every file, hidden, archived and read-only much faster than I ever could with Windows 7.

    SuperTweaker said:
    Do those of you reading this agree with me that Microsoft should give the hardcore PC user the OPTION to disable Metro and activate Start Menu/All Programs?
    No.



    Respectfully, not an expert like you but a keen Windows user,

    Kari
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    Kari said:
    Please in the future when bashing Windows 8 and / or 8.1, do not include me in your "We all were weened..." and similar statements. Better even if you could completely avoid speaking on behalf of me and lot of other users who like the new Windows concept.

    I am not a member of Windows 8 forum because I have directed all my clients to Windows 7, and I have no intentions of using it as my workstation system.

    Maybe Windows 9 or 10.....we'll just to have see.

    Glad you like W8. You know how I feel.

    Let's close this topic, it's really just going to spin it's wheels.
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  10. Posts : 9,600
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    Kari said:
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    SuperTweaker said:
    It is an absurd notion that we PC users will like Metro Desktop and no Start Menu/All Programs.
    Absurd? I would like to say it's genius! I like the thinking behind Windows 8 concept: A flexible easy to customize Start Screen with adjustable tiles for everything I need, in an order I want to instead of clumsy Start Menu with alphabetical order where I need to dig deep to find what I need. If Microsoft had brought the traditional Start Menu back in Windows 8.1 that had been the first feature for me to disable.
    Tiles are better? Heck, I even hate icons, let alone tiles! I feel they eat up too much room and are harder to scan horizontally than a simple, vertical list. I set most of my folders to list view to get rid of the stupid things (picture folders being the only exception).

    I also feel the start menus is much easier to use than a bunch of multi-sized, clunky tiles taking up more than an entire screen. I have no trouble drilling down to what I'm looking for in the Start Menu since it's a concise, easy to read list, even for my old, trifocal assisted eyes. Alphabetical order has worked just fine for me all my life.

    The Win 8 UI is ideal for phones and tablets but PCs and all but the tiniest laptops? I don't think so.
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