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10 Aug 2013   #1

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A very unusual brain

Found this in a newsletter and am amazed at the well preserved convolutions in this brain. I have seen quite a few over the years and especially form dementias and they are indeed a sory looking organ compared to this one.

Einstein?s brain was unusual in several respects, rarely seen photos show - Washington Post
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11 Aug 2013   #2

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Interesting article. Thanks for sharing it!
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11 Aug 2013   #3

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There is some speculation he was an alien. Many people just tune out when aliens are mentioned, but...

They say humans only use a small percentage of their brains. Somehow a larger part of his was switched on. I wonder if other creative peoples brains had similar designs, such as Beethoven, or Mozart?

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There is some speculation he was an alien. Many people just tune out when aliens are mentioned, but...

They say humans only use a small percentage of their brains. Somehow a larger part of his was switched on. I wonder if other creative peoples brains had similar designs, such as Beethoven, or Mozart?

A Guy
An interesting hypothesis Bill but I have during my profession life often heard remarked that we only use 10% of our brain's computing power at most. There is a lot of research at the moment with "plasticity" of nerve tissue in that damaged parts can be taken over by other non used parts of the brain to compensate.
Now it may be interesting to note that I worked for six years in a rehab unit dealing with a lot of stroke victims and maybe it was my imagination but in my humble opinion the individuals who had strokes and some really quite devastating ones often recovered more quickly and to a large extent had more recovered loss of all functions if given therapies of one sort or another in the early stage say within a day or so of suffering the stroke then an individual who had spent for example three weeks on bed rest before rehab.
Now I must say that haemorrhagic strokes recovered in my view better than occlusive or embolic CVA (Cerebral Vascular Accident) events. That is again in my humble opinion and from what I was privy to observe.
Another point of great interest to me also was the recovery rate of patients who were exposed to using computers even if playing very simple games they also (IMHO) vastly improved not only their physical limitations but also reduced the level of depression - a fact that not many would readily think of as stroke (CVA) individuals as having.
As for the other individuals brains you mentioned yes it would have been really interesting to see the convolutional patterns of their cerebral cortex (the very thin layer of grey matter - actual nerve cells) to compare with what we see in Einstein's brain which are indeed unusually tight.
The convolutions for anyone who is not aware is the body's way of increasing the surface area of the cerebral cortex therefore increasing the number of nerve cells contained therein.
In the pic is a fairly typical pattern of convolutions for comparison.


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There is some speculation he was an alien. Many people just tune out when aliens are mentioned, but...

They say humans only use a small percentage of their brains. Somehow a larger part of his was switched on. I wonder if other creative peoples brains had similar designs, such as Beethoven, or Mozart?

A Guy
The history channel lately thinks eveyrthing is aliens or ghost. Not really surprised to hear that. I think some humans just developer their brains better then others.
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12 Aug 2013   #6

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Hmm MIG I think too that like other feotal develpomental, genetically inherited or altered tissues / organs in particular the brain are majot factors in what one neds up with.
Now depending on ones beliefs of course it really is down to evolution.
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Hmm MIG I think too that like other feotal develpomental, genetically inherited or altered tissues / organs in particular the brain are majot factors in what one neds up with.
Now depending on ones beliefs of course it really is down to evolution.
I agree. But that opens up a scary thought ........ ever seen the movie "Idiocracy"?
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12 Aug 2013   #8

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Hmm MIG I think too that like other feotal develpomental, genetically inherited or altered tissues / organs in particular the brain are majot factors in what one neds up with.
Now depending on ones beliefs of course it really is down to evolution.
I agree. But that opens up a scary thought ........ ever seen the movie "Idiocracy"?
No mate I haven't to be honest but I can imagine if "evolution" or genetic / inherited traits were drastically altered by whatever because e we live in an environment that is conducive to mutant changes creating what could possibly be for the better or worse.

A good example would be what we tip on the land to kill weeds substances again for example like
2-4 D that were considered to be reasonably safe but recent research shows that in the developing countries the standards behind the chemicals manufacture fall very short of the - again example dioxin levels that have been set very definite max levels by out here at least the Australian government. In fact I saw a doco just recently that showed the levels of this toxin in some instances were 7 times the absolute max set out here.
In my humble opinion there is no just cause for using this rubbish apart from human greed to make the most out of what can be grown.
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Again I agree with you 100%. Corporate greed needs to take a backseat to the public safety. We here in the States have had our own problems with Dioxin especially but other toxic chemicals too.

I do believe in evolution but theres two sides to every coin you know. What can evolve can devolve too. I'm somewhat afraid of a "two tiered" future, dumb masses and a better fed better educated "elite" who actually run things. Dangerous chemicals in our food, air and water have the potential to bring that to reality. Rich people have access to better food etc.

As an aside...... you really ought to watch that movie. Its supposed to be a comedy (and is funny) but the underlying logic and premise are all too real and very scary. To me anyway.
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12 Aug 2013   #10

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They say humans only use a small percentage of their brains.
And they always forget to say "at any given time".

To elaborate: the brain is an exceptionally complex analog computer. Each portion of the brain has a very specific function and cannot be drastically re-purposed so easily if at all.
For example, the motor cortex is divided in areas that control a very specific muscle of your body. Some damage can be compensated to a certain extent if enough of the area of a specific muscle is damaged, but if the specific area is fully gone, you lose control of that muscle. Period.
And the sensory cortex is divided in areas that receive the input from a very specific sensory cell or group of sensory cells.

Bulk of the brain's surface is used by memory areas, again linked to specific functions, so motor memory, visual memory, sound memory, and so on.

There is also the part for instincts and emotions (the cingulate cortex) and the part for superior brain functions, that is taking rational decisions (prefrontal lobes, lobotomy damages connection to this part and depending on the extent of damage you can end up with total annihilation of the individual).

So using 100% of the brain would be just sensing all sensations at the same time (hot-cold-pressure-pain), contracting all muscles at the same time, recalling all memories at the same time, sensing all emotions at the same time, while also screwing up the rest of the body by releasing a ton of wildly different hormones not meant to work together.

Just correcting a very annoying piece of misinformation, not a critique to you in particular.

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I'm somewhat afraid of a "two tiered" future, dumb masses and a better fed better educated "elite" who actually run things.
I'm pretty sure that it has been like this from day 0.

And seriously, evolution is a bi.tch. The only thing that matters for it is if the individual makes more offspring than an individual with a different set of traits.
So that the traits of the most successful individual are passed on to the offspring as the traits of the less successful individual decrease in % in the population until they disappear or keep a token presence.

Now, while this is fine for animals that aren't horribly smart on average, for humans it breaks down a little.

I mean, look at how the natality drops as the average income of the nation rises. Here in EU it's not negative just because there are a ton of migrants still making tons of children.

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What can evolve can devolve too.
This is happening at an alarming rate for allergies and other relatively minor stuff. Since we all benefit from decent healthcare technology, people that in the past would have been too weak (against invisible threats) to live are allowed to live by using medicines, therefore allowing their traits to spread, weakening the population (and making it very dependent from medicines and medical tech to survive and thrive).

I'm not saying it's an evil thing as I'm not a Nazi, but human beings in the wealthier nations are weakening against antigens and non-phyisical threats every new generation just because of evolution.
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