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Today my water heater packed up. I discovered this while taking a shower.
From June to Early October we turn off the water heater. The temp out of the tap is on average 126F.
Even if you let it run? That's more then water heaters are normally set at.
Most houses here in the desert have the water pipes run through the ceilings and so gather heat from the attic. when its 100F + outside you can quite imagine the temps in the attic. We are supposed to be conserving water but cheap assed contractors are to cheap and lazy to lay Pex pipe in the slabs to cut heat down. from the 60's to the mid 2000's copper and anodized were the pipes of choice but the alkalinity of the soil destroys most to fail in less that 8 years.
Pex is the only alternative here but it cost more. Here's the rub though.
You need less footage of pipe to run underground and come up to a sink, toilet or tub.
Takes more pipe to run down the wall to same applications.
fewer feet means lower cost. (it actually equals out to close to the same)
Pex requires plumbers to be trained and tools to be bought. A pex crimper for 3/4" runs about $75.00 USD
Laziness is the biggest culprit. I am/was a journeyman plumber as well as a general contractor turned PC tech because the housing industry here turned to crap in 05'.
If I get to build my own place again I will definitely put the pipes in the floor. Running the watter for 15 minutes just to get tepid water is not conserving water.